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testcase448 05-14-2018 07:29 AM

I'm bored, minions doing the work..so.. Colts: Deon Cain could be a steal
 
Deon Cain

is the epitome of untapped potential, but the Indianapolis Colts could be the franchise that helps him become a steal of the 2018 NFL Draft.
The Indianapolis Colts aren’t receiving quite enough praise for how methodical they were at the 2018 NFL Draft. With Andrew Luck returning to a team that hasn’t exactly provided him with an ideal supporting cast, the Colts made it a point to help him return to form.

While all eyes are rightfully on offensive lineman Quenton Nelson, it’s a later selection that could prove to be one of the steals of the 2018 NFL Draft.

VeveJones007 05-14-2018 09:49 AM

I said it before, but it's worth repeating. I loved Day 3 of the draft. Ballard got some playmakers with very high upside as well as a few LBs who could compete for a spot.

Trenches early, playmakers late. I could live with those kinds of draft over the next several years.

sherck 05-14-2018 10:29 AM

I think that if our coaches are inventive that a lot of our recent acquisitions could see field time and mismatches.

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Put a package in that consists of 2 TEs (Doyle, Ebron) and 3 RBs (Mack, Hines and Wilkins). Show wishbone formation with both TEs tight.

If defense has not gone jumbo, then call the run play and smash it at the point of attack.

If defense goes jumbo to counter, shift to a 4-wide set with Ebron, Doyle in slot positions and Mack and Hines at the wideout positions. Allow Luck to throw to whom is open.

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On successive plays...

- 4 WR of Hilton / Rogers / Cain / Fountain with a RB.
- 3 TE of Doyle, Ebron, Swoope with Hilton and a RB.
- The above mentioned wishbone formation
- Back to 4 WR
- Back to a split RB formation with both RBs doine wheel routes while our 2 WR run "go" routes clearing the defenses.

Seriously, I don't know that we have a single "complete" player at any of the spots except Hilton and Doyle but we have all sorts of "mix-n-match" style players that we can script into a very exciting, dynamic attack that hits all parts of an opposing defense.

Of course, that is all predicated on an Offensive Line that can hold its own.....HELLO! I love the drafting of Nelson & Smith and the signing of Howard. FINALLY! An O-Line that will allow Luck to have the time to find the mismatch!

My guess is that we are going to be able to watch this offense ALL DAY LONG!


Anyway, if Fountain and Cain (and Rogers) will listen to Reggie and Hilton and do what they say in order to develop, this could be fun.

Walk Worthy,

Dam8610 05-14-2018 12:00 PM

There has been talk of a lack of playmakers on this team in the media in general, but I count 12 WRs, RBs, and TEs on this roster that will get playing time if they're kept.

WR: Hilton, Grant, Rogers, Cain, Fountain
RB: Mack, Turbin, Hines, Wilkins
TE: Doyle, Ebron, Travis

That's more than enough weapons for Luck to do great things with, and I'd be shocked if those rookie WRs don't climb the depth chart sooner rather than later, especially Cain. Now all we have to do is hope the defense doesn't give up 40 points per game.

YDFL Commish 05-14-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 67351)
There has been talk of a lack of playmakers on this team in the media in general, but I count 12 WRs, RBs, and TEs on this roster that will get playing time if they're kept.

WR: Hilton, Grant, Rogers, Cain, Fountain
RB: Mack, Turbin, Hines, Wilkins
TE: Doyle, Ebron, Travis

That's more than enough weapons for Luck to do great things with, and I'd be shocked if those rookie WRs don't climb the depth chart sooner rather than later, especially Cain. Now all we have to do is hope the defense doesn't give up 40 points per game.

I think, that I would throw Swoope in there as well.

sherck 05-14-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 67365)
I think, that I would throw Swoope in there as well.

Swoooooooope, there he is!

Okay, bad pun but you get the idea.






Walk Worthy,

Chromeburn 05-14-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 67327)
I said it before, but it's worth repeating. I loved Day 3 of the draft. Ballard got some playmakers with very high upside as well as a few LBs who could compete for a spot.

Trenches early, playmakers late. I could live with those kinds of draft over the next several years.

I was thinking the same thing. Tap into the best linemen, LBs, secondary, early. You can always find play makers later on. It would have to be a WR with Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones type measurables to consider one early. Even then I don't know if I would take one.

Indiana V2 05-14-2018 10:18 PM

If Luck is healthy, then that changes the whole complexion of this team. An improved O-line, some new playmakers, this offense could be fun to watch for once.

Dam8610 05-14-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 67427)
If Luck is healthy, then that changes the whole complexion of this team. An improved O-line, some new playmakers, this offense could be fun to watch for once.

The offense is going to be a lot more fun to watch, as there will be a lot of creativity involved for a change. I just hope the defense doesn't get stuck on the field or give up so many points that that creativity is stifled and ineffective.

FatDT 05-15-2018 09:19 AM

The offense hasn't actually been that fun to watch since 2014. I'm not convinced Luck will be great until he's got a few games under his belt. But I am expecting Reich to anticipate that and put the offense in the right position to protect Luck and get valuable reps in the new playbook. If Luck and the OL stay healthy the last 7-10 games could be really exciting. It'd be great if Cain could step up early and earn the #2 spot but I think that'll be Rogers, at least this year.

YDFL Commish 05-15-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 67430)
The offense is going to be a lot more fun to watch, as there will be a lot of creativity involved for a change. I just hope the defense doesn't get stuck on the field or give up so many points that that creativity is stifled and ineffective.

So, now coaching does matter? Which is it?

Dam8610 05-15-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 67490)
So, now coaching does matter? Which is it?

It's that you choose to glean what you want from my posts rather than actually reading them. A lack of creativity and aggressiveness on offense was my biggest criticism of Pagano, and what I believe ultimately cost him his job. There was nothing to criticize on defense, he was never given the parts he needed and the little talent he was given made Pro Bowls. If you ask someone to build a house and don't provide lumber or concrete, you can't be surprised when the resulting structure isn't structurally sound.

Ballard clearly has a vision, though, and if that requires a different coach to implement, so be it. I want a front office that is going to impose a winning culture on the team by any means necessary. I just hope that Ballard recognizes the importance of investing heavily in defense, though the early returns on that front are at least encouraging.

Butter 05-15-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 67452)
I'm not convinced Luck will be great until he's got a few games under his belt.

I agree, with as much time as he had missed, anyone expecting him to come out looking like a probowler the first 1/2 of the season is likely to be disappointed

YDFL Commish 05-15-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 67499)
It's that you choose to glean what you want from my posts rather than actually reading them. A lack of creativity and aggressiveness on offense was my biggest criticism of Pagano, and what I believe ultimately cost him his job. There was nothing to criticize on defense, he was never given the parts he needed and the little talent he was given made Pro Bowls. If you ask someone to build a house and don't provide lumber or concrete, you can't be surprised when the resulting structure isn't structurally sound.

Ballard clearly has a vision, though, and if that requires a different coach to implement, so be it. I want a front office that is going to impose a winning culture on the team by any means necessary. I just hope that Ballard recognizes the importance of investing heavily in defense, though the early returns on that front are at least encouraging.

Whoa...Whoa...Whoa, you had more than one post where you pointed out how coaching doesn't matter in the NFL.

You have obviously back peddled from that stance to at least some degree.

Now, step up and say that you were wrong.

Dam8610 05-15-2018 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 67560)
Whoa...Whoa...Whoa, you had more than one post where you pointed out how coaching doesn't matter in the NFL.

You have obviously back peddled from that stance to at least some degree.

Now, step up and say that you were wrong.

Show me the post where I said "coaching doesn't matter in any capacity to winning football games" or something similar to that, and I will. You won't find it, because I never said it. We disagree on magnitudes, and I'm done with the argument. I'll continue to believe what the data says, you believe...whatever you're using to come to your conclusion.

omahacolt 05-17-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 67570)
Show me the post where I said "coaching doesn't matter in any capacity to winning football games" or something similar to that, and I will. You won't find it, because I never said it. We disagree on magnitudes, and I'm done with the argument. I'll continue to believe what the data says, you believe...whatever you're using to come to your conclusion.

Still sticking up for pagano. Hahahhahaha

Dam8610 05-17-2018 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 67776)
Still sticking up for pagano. Hahahhahaha

You're delusional, but what else is new?

Racehorse 05-18-2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 67776)
Still sticking up for pagano. Hahahhahaha

If he would just acknowledge the truth that Pagano sucks ass asa head coach, then people would give him a break. However, he refuses, so the ridicule is justified.

omahacolt 05-18-2018 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 67793)
If he would just acknowledge the truth that Pagano sucks ass asa head coach, then people would give him a break. However, he refuses, so the ridicule is justified.

The dude refuses to admit he is wrong. Just explains what type of person he is

Dam8610 05-18-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 67795)
The dude refuses to admit he is wrong. Just explains what type of person he is

It shows exactly what type of person you are that you can't let a difference of opinion go.

IndyNorm 05-18-2018 01:21 PM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...horribly-wrong

This is all anyone really needs to know about the Clappy McWoodchopper era.

Chromeburn 05-18-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 67822)
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...horribly-wrong

This is all anyone really needs to know about the Clappy McWoodchopper era.

At least we won't have to see that perpetually confused look on the sideline any more.


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