Colts Lose Out on Rashaan Melvin
 

THAT WILL HELP !!!!!

If your goal is to be the AFC doormat for the rest of Luck's career
Seriously WTF



The Colts have not signed many people in free agency so far. Now news has come out that they lost the opportunity to re-sign their best corner.
Indianapolis has been patient in free agency. They have been scanning the market and looking for players who fit their system. But the organization just lost out on their best defender from this past season.

Rashaan Melvin has opted to not re-sign with the Colts. Instead he signed a one year deal with the Oakland Raiders. This is a big blow to the team’s secondary. Melvin was by far their best cornerback and was the best player in their secondary overall.

Makes perfect sense.. to who?
Losing faith in Ballard

The team just let their best defender walk without even trying to re-sign him. Hopefully that’s the last time that happens.

We sign a practice squad DE from Oakland, they get our best DB?

We will not sniff the playoffs again even with Luck back for years

Seriously, TC. The door is THAT WAY ============>

I too wanted a few of the guys whom were signed by other teams.

However, we did not win the bidding battle in some cases and in other cases, Ballard was not interested in them. Same story every season.

Long way to go until we play any meaningful games. Lots of moves to be made.

So far, I like the draft pick trade, I like re-signed AV and I like the Ebron signing.

I am neutral on the D-lineman signing. I don't see a ton from him but if the coaches do then great; I did not think much of Woods signing last year and was dead wrong on it because he was excellent.

I am negative on cutting Hankins.

Everything else? I was not a fan of signing any other of our free agents early. Let them test the waters and see what happens. None were irreplaceable. Moncrief at possibly $11m next season? Pass.

The first phase of free agency is to overpay for guys whom can fill a hole or two on your team. Rarely is it for building your team around.

We are many holes away. Ballard will find good guys over the next week to 10 days. We will have less holes to fill in the draft than we do today. Keep patient.

But, seriously, your post porn over the past hour to say the same thing in every thread got old after the first one.

Door is THAT WAY.

Overpaying one year wonders is a great way to end up in cap hell.

Both Holder and Keefer said Melvin was asking the Colts for significantly more money. It's clear the guy wanted to go elsewhere.

First, shove the door up your stupid ass..

Second, remove your lips from Ballard's ass until he proves something

grade thus far...

Draft pick trade, OK move, may be good, we'll see

let Melvin go in exchange bring in a sub-mediocre DE.. stupid
Hankins move.. stupid. Makes an OK area thin
We're overpaying guys that CAN'T fill a hole, AND creating new holes

Explain how losing good, at least average players and bringing in ... well a tight end with bad hands advances our cause.

You are correct, we are a long way from playing any meaning full games... several seasons

It's clear we've got plenty of good DBs :rolleyes:

I wanted Melvin back, but not at a high price. He played well but for 75% of one season. And he got hurt. That's a warning sign that a guy is trying really, really hard so he can get paid. Keeping him would've been a fine move but I don't think he's a huge loss. He's almost 30 and had less than one good year.

I thought he played well in 2016

good post.

If he wanted to be paid long term like a CB1, then ballard stuck to his plan and didnt overpay.

Notice that melvin only ended up with a one-year prove it deal? The other teams were not going to over pay for him and we didnt either.

according to holder, we are resigning desir

Melvin wanted 5 years/$10+million per year from the Colts. He signed for 1 year/$6.5 million with the Raiders. He wanted to leave.

Hard to fault Ballard for not biting on that if true.

Why he was so desperate to leave, that’s another question...

Been a f’n circus the last year and a half at least. Maybe longer. If Ballard (rightly) didn’t want to overpay him why stay? With the change in D and coaching staff there really isn’t any more risk in leaving than staying. If you don’t think the GM believes in you why stay on a rebuilding team itching to replace you?

California<<<Indiana.

I don't think its an issue of him being desperate to leave Indy. My understanding is that he thinks he's a CB1 and wanted CB1 dollars. Colts value him as a CB2 and offered him CB2$. Colts said, go test the market. He tested the market and saw nobody valued him as a CB1 and so his next best option is to take a 1 year deal somewhere else where he can prove himself worthy of CB1 $. Colts were never going to value him as such and so he left. I don't get the thinking that Ballard "did nothing" to retain him or that Melvin "hated Indy".
Sometimes this stuff can be other thought. It's free agency and everyone talent/teams are trying to make the best deal they can. It's business, not personal.

Without even trying to resign him? How would you even know that?

How can you fault Ballard for not paying him $3.5M more than any other team thought he was worth?

Sure, Melvin is a decent corner. You're acting like without him we would have won zero games last year instead of 4.

TC is full of shit, they did try to re-sign him, he wanted a longer-term CB1 type contract from the Colts, he took a 1 year prove it elsewhere.

Doesn't change a thing...

Depth gone... hole opens up

Nate Hairston played well last year and I think Quincy Wilson will be able to step in and play well too. You're overreacting to this Melvin thing pretty extremely.

It changes your entire narrative.

Is there now a need at DB or do we have plenty of of proven CBs?

Simple question

Ballard blew this one

You claimed he did not try to re-sign, he did.

he failed to resign him

failed

Is there a need? Maybe at nickle CB. That need ranks lower than at least the following:

1) DE
2) DT
3) OLB
4) MLB
5) RT
6) OG
7) RB

In other words, it's not a priority, but something that could be addressed.

We're thin at CB but we can survive w/Wilson, Desir, and Hairston as the top 3 CBs. Especially if Hooker can stay healthy.

Melvin was a good player but as much as I think Ballard is too stingy with the cap I don't blame him for not wanting to pay $10M/year. His age and lack of sustained production work against him.

A TE with "talent" and hands of stone was?

Explain Hankins...

Sure am glad you are not the gm of this team. Ballard has a plan and is sticking to it. The fact that he makes moves within this plan that most of us find confusing either means he knows a hell of a lot more than us casual fans or he is a stone cold idiot like Grigson. I'm hoping for the first

I agree that he believes he has the best plan and is sticking to it, but that in itself doesn’t make it right. And there are more alternatives to that than him being an idiot of Grigsons magnitude.

But for the record I agree with passing on Melvin for CB1 money.

so your arguement of "hankins and melvin" has been trimmed down to just "explain hankins"

I don't have to. I'm not defending Ballard here, just pointing out that your position is absurd.

No, he refused to give in to extortion.

The only failure I see is in you trolling to get others pissed about something minor.

REALLY?

Here's some better, more enlightened, opinions than yours...


Winners: Jaguars

Former Panthers left guard Andrew Norwell wasn't heard in any rumors regarding the Jags, but there he is, about to line up next to stud center Brandon Linder and further boost the blocking in front of Leonard Fournette for the league's No. 1 rushing attack. The Jaguars don't want to mess with the running game/physical identity that got them a quarter away from the Super Bowl. At the same time, they took a worthy flyer on a cheaper Robinson in fill-in with former Colt Donte Moncrief.

Losers: Colts

The Colts have a ton of money under the salary cap, but they have been eerily quiet. With the Jaguars being winners in the division, at least the Texans (Aaron Colvin) and Titans (Malcolm Butler) signed impact cornerbacks.

And the teams that have won media and fan March, have won how many Super Bowls?

How many of those teams will the Colts be looking up at for the next few years?

All of them, particularly galling will be the Fags, Titans and Houston..

The media has been proclaiming the Jaguars the winners in free agency for years and years. It didn't make a bit of difference. They built their current team primarily through the draft

Not their defense, that was mostly built through free agency, which is why it's likely to fall apart soon.

The one guy I really wanted was Norwell. But no one knows what the Colts offered him and maybe his priority was to play with a contender and if the money is close, he's choosing the contender.

Jags are pretty much in a win it all this year or next year mode. Based on this chart, they will be in salary cap hell next year.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Here's a good article on the Jags 2 year window which I totally agree with.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/j...-for-coughlin/

With Blake Bortles in charge, nothing is guaranteed with this shit franchise.