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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-19-2025 11:04 AM

Colts name Daniel Jones the QB1
 
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1957816182691520678

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The Colts are naming Daniel Jones their starting quarterback, per sources.

After a training camp competition with Anthony Richardson, Jones — the former Giants starter — gets the ball Week 1 vs. Miami.
https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1957816456139120757

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Coach Shane Steichen informed the quarterbacks this morning of his decision.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 11:13 AM

Well, that’s most likely the end of the AR experience in Indy.

I had a feeling this would be the result. I think Steichen is done with AR and has been since last year.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 11:21 AM

I think Steichen believes he can coach around Jones shortcomings.

I see another 5-7 win season, a whole new regime next year, and still no answer at quarterback.

Good Lord this sucks.

Racehorse 08-19-2025 11:27 AM

My guess is that they think AR needs another year to develop, and Jones gives him the best chance at success this year. It scares me to think of Daniel Jones as our quarterback at the future.

rm1369 08-19-2025 11:39 AM

It’s a continuation of the stupidity of the Ballard regime. It cannot be over quick enough.

nate505 08-19-2025 11:46 AM

Such a dumb move. Oh well, so it goes.

Oldcolt 08-19-2025 12:00 PM

Playing for mediocrity is in the blood of this organization. Don't think I can stomach watching this again. So I guess a really exceptional season is sneaking into the playoffs and one and done again. I am not sure how any of these players can possibly get pumped for this season. What a shit show. Is there a more poorly run team?

CletusPyle 08-19-2025 12:01 PM

I am surprised, I thought Jones was better in preseason but not by a wide margin. I wonder if AR has any trade value?

CletusPyle 08-19-2025 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 326560)
Playing for mediocrity is in the blood of this organization. Don't think I can stomach watching this again. So I guess a really exceptional season is sneaking into the playoffs and one and done again. I am not sure how any of these players can possibly get pumped for this season. What a shit show. Is there a more poorly run team?

At least at this point, no male cheerleaders!:D

Spike 08-19-2025 12:11 PM

The current regime is scared, as they should be. This decision makes me ill. AR gives me a lot more hope than that mediocre hack DJ. AR is just a more exciting player with massive potential. Suck it up cowards, and give AR one more year. Yep, another wasted year from Ballard and company.

Mr. Session 08-19-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 326564)
The current regime is scared, as they should be. This decision makes me ill. AR gives me a lot more hope than that mediocre hack DJ. AR is just a more exciting player with massive potential. Suck it up cowards, and give AR one more year. Yep, another wasted year from Ballard and company.

If it's going to burn, let the mother fucker burn.

Dewey 5 08-19-2025 12:24 PM

This more than likely will be the end for Steichen & Dipshit Ballard.

rm1369 08-19-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 326561)
I am surprised, I thought Jones was better in preseason but not by a wide margin. I wonder if AR has any trade value?

Not enough to take the risk. I’d rather keep him into next year and let him battle it out under a new coach and GM. The cynical part of me says it’s an attempt by Ballard and Steichen to get another year. Telling ownership AR was always a long term play and he should sit and watch this year.

It’s likely just me being dumbfounded that they believe they can save their jobs with DJ. Believing AR is a known failure but DJ has some untapped potential is just ludicrous to me.

Mr. Session 08-19-2025 12:33 PM

Shane's press conference was a real cringefest.

If the seat aint hot because of Carly it'll be hot from the fanbase/media.

You reap what you fucking sow.

HoosierinFL 08-19-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 326564)
The current regime is scared, as they should be. This decision makes me ill. AR gives me a lot more hope than that mediocre hack DJ. AR is just a more exciting player with massive potential. Suck it up cowards, and give AR one more year. Yep, another wasted year from Ballard and company.

That is exactly right, this is a decision rooted in being scared shitless.

And it will play out as such as decision. I guarantee right now we will win fewer games this year than last. 7 wins is the ceiling, 5-6 more likely. 0-4 start incoming too.

albany ed 08-19-2025 12:48 PM

I think this team will/would fail regardless of which clown won the starting job. I would prefer AR only because his huge ups and his bottomless downs would at least make for better entertainment. And let's face it if you're gonna lose, (and they will lose often) better to go down in a blaze than a whisp of smoke.

jmo

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-19-2025 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 326555)
Well, that’s most likely the end of the AR experience in Indy.

I had a feeling this would be the result. I think Steichen is done with AR and has been since last year.


I have my doubts if Jones can last an entire season without being injured. He has had his fair share of injuries over the years - torn ACL, a couple of neck injuries, various hamstring and ankle injuries, etc.

I would bet that someone else will start games at QB1 for the Colts this year besides Jones.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 326569)
That is exactly right, this is a decision rooted in being scared shitless.

And it will play out as such as decision. I guarantee right now we will win fewer games this year than last. 7 wins is the ceiling, 5-6 more likely. 0-4 start incoming too.

The less they win, the better. I’d rather they win 2 games than 8 again.

At least then, they’d have their pick of quarterbacks.

But that’s not going to happen. They’ll win 6-9 games, miss the playoffs again, and we’ll be right back here in this same situation next season.

It’s just SO frustrating.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 01:01 PM

I wonder what role, if any, Jim’s death played into this.

I know Jim was a big believer in AR. I’m guessing Carlie isn’t as much.

ChaosTheory 08-19-2025 01:27 PM

Step 1 in mimicking Vikings reddit for the past year is going well. Suicide watch was pretty heavy for them in August, too.

Brylok 08-19-2025 01:38 PM

I just saw this news and I haven't read the thread yet but, yeah, I'm not very high on Ballard or Steichen anymore. I'm expecting 7-10 and probably a house cleaning at the end of the season. Not just because of this decision, it's been accumulating for a while now. We shall see.

nate505 08-19-2025 01:50 PM

I'm going to try to have some optimism and hope DJ does well... But fuck me if it's real hard to do so. This is such a deflating way to start the year.

Colts And Orioles 08-19-2025 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 326555)



Well, that’s most likely the end of the AR experience in Indianapolis.

I had a feeling this would be the result. I think Steichen is done with AR and has been since last year.




o


Aaron Rodgers' first season with the Jets ended after 4 plays ........ football such a rough sport that an occurrence such as that is not unusual.

This may be the end of Anthony Richardson's experience in Indianapolis, but I wouldn't bank on it.

o

Brylok 08-19-2025 02:34 PM

Any chance we can trade AR for like a 3rd or 4th round pick? Maybe Seattle might want him? Have him sit behind Geno for a while? Just spitballin' here.

BCN#1 08-19-2025 03:12 PM

Wow.... simply wow. The amazing fixation on staying mediocre and not rolling the dice is now sadly confirmed. I only hope that I am way off base and wrong here. Happy to have my plate of crow with some extra salt if needed.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 326585)
Any chance we can trade AR for like a 3rd or 4th round pick? Maybe Seattle might want him? Have him sit behind Geno for a while? Just spitballin' here.

Trade him to Cleveland for Shedueur or Gabriel.

And I’m only half kidding when I say that.

Dam8610 08-19-2025 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 326585)
Any chance we can trade AR for like a 3rd or 4th round pick? Maybe Seattle might want him? Have him sit behind Geno for a while? Just spitballin' here.

Geno is in Oakland. I wouldn't trade AR. He's 23, and no one is going to give you anything close to what you invested in him. Give him time, let him learn. It seems like that's what the Colts are finally doing, 2 years too late.

Brylok 08-19-2025 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 326587)
Trade him to Cleveland for Shedueur or Gabriel.

And I’m only half kidding when I say that.

Don't want anything to do with Shedueur. Getting him means getting Deion, and Deion is an ass and hates the Colts. I don't know anything about Gabriel.

Brylok 08-19-2025 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 326591)
Geno is in Oakland.

Ah. I haven't been paying much attention recently.

apballin 08-19-2025 05:41 PM

I don’t get all the hate on Jones, just like I’m baffled by Colts fans love affair with AR. Jones gives the team the best chance to win now. AR can’t even protect himself out there.

I’m excited about this season, in my opinion this decision took balls of steel from Steichen, he knows who the fans wanted in there yet he walked in there and said Jones is the starter for the season. He’s confident in Jones and if this team comes out winning fans will jump back on the bandwagon real quick

ChoppedWood 08-19-2025 05:48 PM

Exactly as I predicted. Steichen is a coward, second only behind the cowardice that is Chris BullShit Ballard.

Think through this, it is INSANE to bench AR and retain Chris Ballard, insane. This is a reflection of just how fucking inept at this shit that fucking tool is.

14th QB of his tenure, 14th FUCKING QB!

Do I think AR is the messiah, no, do I think he would play the whole season, nope. Do I think he can get us to the playoffs---- ahhhh maybe? Not even pissed that it is Jones over AR, pissed that we are going to start the season with a QB who had a 47.5 QB rating last year with a guy that is only going into his 3rd year as the 4th pick riding the pine because he can't play the damn game of football well- and the fucking shit sucking loser ass GM that chose him, is still in command.

FUCK CHRIS BALLARD!

rm1369 08-19-2025 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326595)
I don’t get all the hate on Jones, just like I’m baffled by Colts fans love affair with AR. Jones gives the team the best chance to win now. AR can’t even protect himself out there.

I’m excited about this season, in my opinion this decision took balls of steel from Steichen, he knows who the fans wanted in there yet he walked in there and said Jones is the starter for the season. He’s confident inJones and if this team comes out winning fans will jump back on the bandwagon real quick

DJ has proven over 6 years that he is a bad QB. Does he give them a chance at more wins? Maybe? A great year from DJ leads this team to a max 9 wins and maybe a first round playoff exit. That’s peak. Great. And you are back in no man’s land next year. I sure as fuck hope they aren’t stupid enough to give DJ a long term contract. That’s the issue with him - no one believes he’s the long term answer at QB and even in one season his max is first round exit. The reality is he probably gets 6-8 wins. So it’s a continuation of the stupid Ballard shit that has driven this team into a decades long mediocrity.

I have no idea why you believe Steichen has balls and is confident in Jones. What is it about Jones that makes him so confident? His sterling record as a starter? I see a fucking weasel who is anything but confident in what he’s doing. He had fucking confidence in Flacco last year too. How’d that work out? The same way Jones is likely to work out.

I have no idea if AR will amount to anything. He’s most likely a shit QB. But he offers excitement and, most importantly, the path off the carousel of mediocrity Ballard loves. By your admission his bad is worse than DJ, so better pick and possibly a chance at a QB. Instead we want an extra 2-3 wins from DJ and a continuation of the carousel.

DJ is a lose / lose proposition. AR is a win / win proposition. That’s why this is a stupid fucking decision and everyone is pissed. I can’t wait until “big dick Ballard” and “balls of steel Steichen” are fucking a different fan base.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326595)
I don’t get all the hate on Jones, just like I’m baffled by Colts fans love affair with AR. Jones gives the team the best chance to win now. AR can’t even protect himself out there.

I’m excited about this season, in my opinion this decision took balls of steel from Steichen, he knows who the fans wanted in there yet he walked in there and said Jones is the starter for the season. He’s confident in Jones and if this team comes out winning fans will jump back on the bandwagon real quick

Jones is 20 games under .500 as a starter. And he had a pretty good offensive coach for some of that time, Brian Daboll.

I’m not saying it’s impossible that he has a good season, I’m just saying it’s highly unlikely. He kind of is what he is at this point.

He reminds me some of Minshew with a slightly stronger arm.

apballin 08-19-2025 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 326601)
Jones is 20 games under .500 as a starter. And he had a pretty good offensive coach for some of that time, Brian Daboll.

I’m not saying it’s impossible that he has a good season, I’m just saying it’s highly unlikely. He kind of is what he is at this point.

He reminds me some of Minshew with a slightly stronger arm.

They got rid of Barkley and all the pressure was on Jones, limited weapons and a shit Oline. Daboll tried to turn him into Josh Allen, he’s not Josh Allen.

A more athletic Minshew with a slightly stronger arm isn’t a bad thing to me. A lot of experience and a playoff win.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2025 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326602)
They got rid of Barkley and all the pressure was on Jones, limited weapons and a shit Oline. Daboll tried to turn him into Josh Allen, he’s not Josh Allen.

A more athletic Minshew with a slightly stronger arm isn’t a bad thing to me. A lot of experience and a playoff win.

That’s a good point. I hadn’t considered that. Losing Barkley was huge for the Giants, and they always seem to have a shitty oline. And before they drafted Nabers they didn’t really have any receivers either.

apballin 08-19-2025 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 326598)
DJ has proven over 6 years that he is a bad QB. Does he give them a chance at more wins? Maybe? A great year from DJ leads this team to a max 9 wins and maybe a first round playoff exit. That’s peak. Great. And you are back in no man’s land next year. I sure as fuck hope they aren’t stupid enough to give DJ a long term contract. That’s the issue with him - no one believes he’s the long term answer at QB and even in one season his max is first round exit. The reality is he probably gets 6-8 wins. So it’s a continuation of the stupid Ballard shit that has driven this team into a decades long mediocrity.

I have no idea why you believe Steichen has balls and is confident in Jones. What is it about Jones that makes him so confident? His sterling record as a starter? I see a fucking weasel who is anything but confident in what he’s doing. He had fucking confidence in Flacco last year too. How’d that work out? The same way Jones is likely to work out.

I have no idea if AR will amount to anything. He’s most likely a shit QB. But he offers excitement and, most importantly, the path off the carousel of mediocrity Ballard loves. By your admission his bad is worse than DJ, so better pick and possibly a chance at a QB. Instead we want an extra 2-3 wins from DJ and a continuation of the carousel.

DJ is a lose / lose proposition. AR is a win / win proposition. That’s why this is a stupid fucking decision and everyone is pissed. I can’t wait until “big dick Ballard” and “balls of steel Steichen” are fucking a different fan base.

Steichen very easily could’ve just bowed down and gave the fans what they wanted (AR). Jones is 28 Flacco was 40 last year and he’s a statue back there.

Every coach wants a guy that can run the offense efficiently, walk up read the defense and make the throw when it’s there. AR just relies too much on athleticism and buying time yet missing on the simple play when a guy is schemed open.

This tells me they want to win now, unfortunately for AR the best players on this team are getting up there in age

rm1369 08-19-2025 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 326604)
Steichen very easily could’ve just bowed down and gave the fans what they wanted (AR). Jones is 28 Flacco was 40 last year and he’s a statue back there.

Every coach wants a guy that can run the offense efficiently, walk up read the defense and make the throw when it’s there. AR just relies too much on athleticism and buying time yet missing on the simple play when a guy is schemed open.

This tells me they want to win now, unfortunately for AR the best players on this team are getting up there in age

Joe Flacco was a significantly better QB than Jones has ever shown. He was 4-1 as a starter the year before the Colts. Richardson was 6-5 last year. Jones was 2-8 last year and 1-5 the year before.

I’m glad after 9 years a Ballard led team is in win now mode. They’ve fucked this up to no end. Draft the rawest QB prospect ever, start him immediately, then start benching him for scrubs to “win” now in years 2 and 3. It’s perfect Ballard logic.

I’m not sure why Steichen making a stupid decision seems to give you confidence in that decision. This team has made tons of stupid decisions. How many worked out?

IndyNorm 08-19-2025 08:00 PM

Disappointed but not really surprised as Steichen pretty well tipped his hand by giving Jones the only preseason snaps with the (mostly) #1 offense. Like most of you I'm pretty skeptical on Jones and would have gone w/ AR. Since (at least from what I saw and read) neither of them really separated themselves IMO it makes sense to go w/ the higher upside guy.

Hopefully Jones proves us all wrong, but I am definitely concerned that Jones plays just well enough to get us to the playoffs, then we pay him, and that's followed by him completely shitting the bed like he did in NY.

IndyNorm 08-19-2025 08:02 PM

Wanted to add that a small silver lining to this is that it should make Pierce a lot less expensive to re-sign.

rm1369 08-19-2025 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 326607)
Wanted to add that a small silver lining to this is that it should make Pierce a lot less expensive to re-sign.

I don’t see AP resigning here. He will likely be cheaper for his next team though.


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