2025 qb
 

what's the play here? It isn't AR. that ship is done.

if flacco wins 8 or 9 games do we roll with him again. that's a nightmare for me. I will hate that. we won't draft a guy. do we sign a minshew type player?


what's the call here?

Time to go back to Sam!

Ship hasn’t sailed, he’s just not ready

He’s still the qb of the future

Arch. Is destined to be. He will enter the draft early.

Nah, not after the way this has gone down, today they put his name on the Colts tombstone. No coming back from this.

Okay Jim, here's some tranquilizers, now go drool in another corner of the room.

I'm thinking he sends the jet around, picks up Andrew, Phil, Matt and Carson, and brings them in for private workouts. The first one that can throw the ball over 20 yards in the air- is next year's starter!

How fucking sad is it to be talking like this again...

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That reminds me ......


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145646

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Why wouldn't it be AR? If they jettison the whole front office, it might not be, but as you lay out, there aren't really other options. The way I see it, there are only 3 ways this goes:

1) Flacco comes in, does well, and leads the team to the playoffs. In this scenario, Flacco is 41 next year, there’s no way the Colts will go back to him for 2025. So, AR will end up being the guy in 2025.

2) Flacco comes in for a few games and does poorly, so they go back to AR. Is this ideal? No, they should've kept starting Richardson, but there’s no reason not to let him get playing time and see what they have if there's no postseason chances. This would indicate to me that the front office was afraid of losing the locker room after the Houston game.

3) Flacco does poorly and continues to start for the rest of the season anyway, and the Colts miss the playoffs. If this happens, I think the entire front office is gone at the end of the season, and AR may or may not get another chance. This would indicate to me that Flacco was an Irsay decision, and he wasn’t willing to accept missing the playoffs this season. To me, this is the most hopeless scenario, as it would mean the Irsays have turned into a poor ownership group again. This would demonstrate impatience from ownership at every level, and impatient ownership groups rarely if ever build sustained success for the franchise on the field.

I think Scenario 2 is how it plays out, and honestly, with how poor the 2025 QB class is, I'd run it back with AR next year whether it's the current or a new regime. Either he improves the way we'd hoped he would, or he'll likely perform poorly enough to put the team in position to get Arch Manning. Either would be fine with me.

Arch won't be able to enter the draft until '26. And that's if he leaves early, which based on his family history he probably won't.

I think Flacco gets us into the playoffs and then retires....AR and Steichen meet and AR vows to work his ass off in the off season and come back ready to lead this team....Colts draft Kurtis Rourke in the 3rd round, AR shits the bed so bad that Rourke is inserted as the starter by week 6.....A STAR IS BORN!

I hope the offense explodes, but Bradley's piss poor defense holds us back, and he gets fired.

The defense has actually done really well this year considering the circumstances, and I noticed they adjusted the gameplan against Houston to do what GB did successfully against them, with great results. Given the major injuries on defense and that they've been on the field more than any other defense in the NFL, it wouldn't be surprising for them to have much worse results. I think the Colts are a low end playoff team if Flacco performs well, but likely not one that makes it past wild card weekend.

Hopefully AR takes whatever time he's on the bench and uses it to learn, study, and do whatever it takes to fix the minor flaws that are holding him back from success.

8 years of Ballard and the Colt's are where they are when he took over !! I say blow the whole fucking thing up !!!!!! Trade the guys that don't want to be here, get a GM that's not afraid to use free agency to help build a roster, and if AR is not his guy, start looking now for someone who is. 8 fucking wasted years !!!!!!!!!

My two cents is that the Colts are not a playoff team even with Flacco starting the rest of the season.

Everyone points to the fact that we have lost 4 games by a combined 18 points and that we "are close."

But they forget that we have won 4 games by a combined 17 points as well.

Statistically, we are closer to being 0 - 8 than we are to 8 - 0....sure, by one point but....

Flacco is not a giant in this game anymore if he ever was. While better than AR, he is not a top 15 QB in the league......heck, he may not be a top 25 QB in the league. He is competent but not a world beater. If he is the starter, then defenses will start dialing in packages specific to him and attack his known weaknesses and he will not be as effective as he has been in relief.

This move makes zero sense unless the Colts are 100% done with the AR experience in Indy. We are not a "win now" team and everyone knows it....except perhaps a Jim Irsay who will be handing over the reigns of the team to one of his daughters soon. He may want one more "glory season" to ride off into the sunset with. It might set the franchise back again but all signs point to this being his decision.

Flacco's weaknesses will be exposed Sunday night. I have no hope whatsoever that he will take the Colt's to the playoffs.

That's a pretty big stretch. While they had a bunch of injuries they were still a shit show for the first 5 weeks of the season. They did have a good game @Hou, but the Texans were without Collins and without Diggs for ~half the game. You can't really put much stock in the Tits and Phins games b/c the Tits O is a shit show, and the Phins without Tua are historically bad only scoring 2 TDs in 19 quarters w/out him (one of which was against our D).

Agree this has Jim wanting to see a playoff team before he's gone written all over it. Or maybe there's been a power struggle going on between Steichen and Ballard over AR where Steichen wanted to stick w/ Flacco after AR was back from his hip injury but Ballard forcing him to go back to AR.

12th in points allowed despite being put in so many bad positions by the offense, dealing with major injuries, and being on the field more than any other defense both in terms of TOP and plays. They're averaging nearly an extra minute and an extra play per game on the field than the second to last team. That seems pretty good to me.

flacco has said he wants to play for as long as he can

That just means he hasn't decided for sure if he wants to retire....I think this is his last year.

Bean!

Maybe we can bring Danny Dimes in next year. I think he’d do better than Flacco or ar

this post made me impotent. thanks a lot asshole

would rather watch that than flacco probably

if interested, listen to the athletic football podcast. they had the QB school dude on and pretty much said thoughts about the benching of AR perfectly. was a good listen


unless this was an issue in the locker room, which hearing the players talk it wasn't, this was a terrible move for the franchise and the development of AR

Who cares. They'll get a whopping half a season before they are written off and the Colts draft someone else

What sucks more than anything is the move was right there for us and we’d be set for 15 years

You mean trading up for Stroud?

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You're exaggerating ...... Anthony Richardson started 10 games before they benched him.

There are 17 games in a season. 10 out of 17 is 59%, which is more than half a season.

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Good math.

Baker Mayfield
I was a loud proponent for him but no one else seemed to want that move

If he's still with us by then. I saw that he was just re-activated to the practice squad from the PS IL this week, so I presume he's now eligible to be signed by other teams off the PS. Would make a lot of sense for a team like Carolina or the Tits to pick him up. Of course it would make a lot of sense for us to call him up to replace Ehlinger, but we all know that's not going to happen :cool:.

Couldn't other teams just sign him off the street, which would not mean they have to put him on the active roster?

I still don't want that move

This whole thread is 18 months premature.

AR will be back.

Roll that beautiful Bean footage!

Hopefully with the timing and footwork issues fixed. He was starting to get close, which makes this decision perplexing unless it's an order from on high (Irsay).

I like Mayfield and always have. But, he's just a stronger armed Minshew. Poor pocket awareness and a gunslinger mentality.

Kinda like a guy named Farve.

Sure. It's better for us that he's on the PS than not at all. The point I was trying to make is that he's right there for the taking, and it wouldn't be surprising at all if another team in QB hell (Panthers, Tits, etc.) plucks him off of our PS. To prevent this from happening I'd like to see him activated up to our 53 man roster, which would likely mean we'd part ways w/ Ehlinger.

TBH I'm not sure if players on the practice squad injured list can be signed by other teams. Guessing that they are, but I doubt any teams would actually do that.