Ogletree Arrested
 

https://fox59.com/news/indianapolis-...dricks-county/

Looks like the dumb fuck beat up his girlfriend :mad:

Welp, there goes his future here.

I will refrain from comments. My God, I will refrain from comments. But I have many. Smh.
In Steichen - only - do I trust.

Young. Probably sleeping around on her. I imagine shit got dramatic. Maybe I'm embellishing things through speculation.

The inability to walk away is what concerns me. Not with him specifically but any man in this scenario. To me, personally, that speaks on a man's character.

Whatever.

He'll make a fine Cleveland Brown......

Von Miller is still playing….

Taking someone’s phone is a criminal offense

These situations are always ugly so I tend to wait for it to play out

Or Raider....


Or Raven....heck, the Ravens are honoring Mr. DV himself (Ray Rice) this weekend.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...rice-on-sunday

You're probably spot on. This is exactly what ended my pro career.

If you’re getting attacked how do you walk away?

Can’t call the police because your phone is broken

It’s all hypothetical but a stiff arm from him probably feels like a body slam to her

The article said she broke his phone, so you're speculation that he was cheating on her is probably correct. Guessing she's hardly blameless in the situation, but it's still no excuse for him to lay his hands on her.

Obviously we should wait to judge, but per the article Ogletree admitted to at least shoving her down. That and the fact that they're holding him w/out bond probably means he's in deep shit.

He's probably at least twice her size. No reason why he couldn't have left, went to a friend's place, and called the cops from there instead of shoving/slamming her.

You’ve clearly never had an angry woman confront you about shit in your cell phone. It’s not as easy as you think

Ask Nick Harper

Your perspective is completely valid. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve been there.

No judgements from me here. I feel like most of the time the facts come out, in time. Perhaps time shows us he’s the victim.

It’s unfortunate he’s in this circumstance. I wouldn’t want that for my son.

Definitely sucks all the way around forget football sucks for the kid, his spouse, and him.

I just hate how guys are instantly crucified

lol


why? why just jump to conclusions like this?


i mean odds are he should have been arrested but some bitches are insane.

Fucking moron. Yeah, he might have been provoked, but my guess is he's significantly larger than her. That never works out well.

In the bedroom it does

I’ve seen enough of these that I will wait for it to play out. I will say if someone breaks your stuff and makes you so angry you get violent, you don’t belong together.

I've never been confronted by anything on my phone, but I've been slapped before and walked away from it. Also, I never said that walking away would be easy, but that still doesn't give him any excuse if he is indeed guilty of doing what he's been charged with. Unless of course she did something like stab him (ala Nick Harper's wife), which is obviously on a whole other level than breaking someone's phone and slapping them.

All I’m saying is an angry woman can be just as aggressive as a LB

Who knows what really happened but let’s be honest if he would’ve wanted to beat the shit out of her I’m sure he’s big enough to destroy her

Not disagreeing there. But unless she attacks with a weapon where you have to defend yourself from physical harm then there's no excuse in laying your hands on a woman.

I hope you're not trying to say that b/c he didn't beat the shit out of her what he did was ok.

I’m not defending putting hands on a woman at all, to instantly side with the woman saying she was body slammed is what I disagree with.

Update on Ogletree:

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...51702409933044

https://twitter.com/RomeovilleKid/st...48946039140766

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Dismissed "with prejudice" ...... meaning dismissed permanently ...... the DA cannot change their mind and refile charges again for this specific incident.


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...with-prejudice


When Ogletree was first arrested, my first inclination was to think that he probably hit her, regardless of whether or not the prosecutor could prove it ...... but because of the manner in which the charges were dismissed, I'm wondering whether or not he hit her at all ...... or at the very least, if she was hit him first, and he retaliated by hitting her back.

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There has been some discussion as to whether or not a man should hit a woman if she hits him first, and he is defending himself. If you all would bear with me, I would like to share my own personal story on the matter.

First of all, I would like to say that I believe that each and every case is different, and therefore that what happened with me should not necessarily be taken as a presumption that every other circumstance of domestic violence should be judged accordingly.

In 1991, I was 25 and my girlfriend was 19. We were arguing vehemently. She came toward me with her arm raised, as though she were going to smack me. I was very angry because of whatever it was that we were arguing about, and I kicked my foot towards her. My foot hit her in the stomach, and she groaned, turned around, and fell to the floor. It was one of the worst feelings that I ever had, and to this day I feel great remorse about it. I wasn't worried about her calling the police on me, because I knew that she wouldn't ...... but my feelings of guilt and remorse about what I did was as bad as the anxiety over being worried about getting arrested.


Like I said, just because that was my experience does not necessarily mean that each and every other case of a man hitting a woman after she hit him first should be judged accordingly ...... obviously it's different if she is coming at you with a stake-knife or a hammer, but anything short of something like that, I would highly recommend that you refrain from striking her so as to avoid the guilt and remorse that I still feel about this incident 33 years after the fact.

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Good news for Ogletree at least. We'll see if the NFL and/or Colts still take action against him.

Be kind of a shame if the dude gets raked over the coals by the guilty-until-proven-innocent brigade for three or four months, then gets essentially vindicated by the judicial system...

...but then the league/team still punishes him or bails on him because of pressure from those same types.

Don't disagree. My comment was more about reading that the NFL is still conducting their investigation and that he could still be suspended, etc.

I hope he bounces back from this

you kicked her in the stomach instead of grabbing her or blocking said smack?

fucking ruthless.

that said, people should have the right to defend themselves. if a tiny, non threating man like dam were to try and smack a normal dude, i wouldn't judge them for beating him down or tossing him away like a napkin. regardless of how weak and fragile he is

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I wasn't even defending myself. I knew that she wasn't going to hurt me, but my immature, 25 year-old self allowed myself to just react out of anger.

Additionally, it was late at night, and so because I was already laying down and all relaxed, I took a lazy route of just kicking my foot out at her instead of getting my dumb, selfish ass out of bed and grabbing her, as you suggested.


It was simply one of the most shameful and saddest moments of my life.

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If we don't learn from our mistakes, we are doomed. Glad you learned.

For what it’s worth… someone posted a photo of Ogletree working out at the Colts facility today

The charges were dismissed. I say, let him return.

Shows why fans shouldn't jump to conclusions till the process plays out unless there is definitive evidence such as pummeling your significant other in an elevator.

You shouldn't even have to say. This whole notion of guilt in the eyes of the public because you were accused/charged is bullshit.

Sure, but conversely, the rich and famous get away with stuff all the time and people get sick of it. It is not a good thing, but it is kind of understandable how the public is kind of sick of the two-tiered justice system.

I'm not sure it's understandable. Maybe understandable in that people are petty and dumb. I don't really think one has to do with the other. It's fine to be perturbed by elites getting away with shit when evidence is publicized that leads you to believe some fuckery was going down.

But stuff like Ogletree is just straight up mob mentality that society has. An accusation is all you need to ruin of lot of guys' lives. It sure as fuck isn't just happening to rich guys.

Just fyi for everyon,Ballard was asked by Holder if he was comfortable with everything they found out regarding Ogletree and Ballard said yes, absolutely five with it.

Good news. I like Ogletree.

He seems like he’s got some real talent.