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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-27-2023 11:45 PM

2023 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3
 
Round 2 starts at 7 Eastern / 6 Central.


ESPN: Mike Greenberg, Mel Kiper Jr., Louis Riddick, Booger McFarland, Chris Mortensen, Adam Schefter, Suzy Kolber

ABC: Rece Davis, Todd McShay, Kirk Herbstreit, Desmond Howard, Sam Ponder, Robert Griffin III, David Pollack, Jesse Palmer, Laura Rutledge, Pete Thamel

NFL Network: Rich Eisen, Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, Joel Klatt, Peter Schrager, Ian Rapoport, Melissa Stark

njcoltfan 04-28-2023 06:22 AM

Joey Porter Jr. and Jonathan Mingo would be 2 nice additions today !!

njcoltfan 04-28-2023 06:33 AM

How about Dawand Jones and Cody Mauch ??

ukcolt 04-28-2023 08:05 AM

I would love O'Cyrus Torrence at guard. Or the best blocking TE in the draft in Darnell Washington.

Either of these two would make our running game so much better for Taylor and Richardson.

Arggghhh I hate typing Richardson in regards the running game, gave me shivers thinking of Trent Richardson.

We really need some help at corner though, so DJ Turner from Michigan or Joey Porter.

Ideally would like to see us trade down to the mid 40's, hopefully Washington is still there, pick up an extra 3rd, package the two thirds to get back into the back end of the 2nd and maybe get one of the CB's, like Brents or Ringo.

The talent drop-off in this draft is high, and I don't see much value in guys after the end of the 2nd round. This is a really poor draft for both real top end talent and depth overall.

Oldcolt 04-28-2023 09:30 AM

The way Ballard has worked day 2 and especially day 3 I have faith we will find some gems in the next few days

smitty46953 04-28-2023 10:30 AM

OG O'Cyrus Torrence if available, need fix the line :cool:

IndyNorm 04-28-2023 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 264821)
I would love O'Cyrus Torrence at guard. Or the best blocking TE in the draft in Darnell Washington.

Either of these two would make our running game so much better for Taylor and Richardson.

Arggghhh I hate typing Richardson in regards the running game, gave me shivers thinking of Trent Richardson.

We really need some help at corner though, so DJ Turner from Michigan or Joey Porter.

Ideally would like to see us trade down to the mid 40's, hopefully Washington is still there, pick up an extra 3rd, package the two thirds to get back into the back end of the 2nd and maybe get one of the CB's, like Brents or Ringo.

The talent drop-off in this draft is high, and I don't see much value in guys after the end of the 2nd round. This is a really poor draft for both real top end talent and depth overall.

It's quite possible both Torrence and Washington will be there at 35. I'd be happy with either but prefer Torrence since we really need to upgrade RG, and this would allow Fries to go back to being a backup swing OG and Pinter to full time backup OC (maybe that's already happened).

Porter would be really good too, but think the writing is on the wall that the Steelers take him at 32.

Dam8610 04-28-2023 11:15 AM

With the names left, I want a trade down at 35. Players who I think would be good value at 35 (in order of ranking on nfl.com):

WR Jalin Hyatt
LB Drew Sanders
CB Brian Branch
TE Luke Musgrave
TE Michael Mayer
EDGE Keion White
CB Joey Porter Jr.
C John Michael Schmitz
CB Kelee Ringo
WR Cedric Tillman
OG O'Cyrus Torrence
TE Darnell Washington
EDGE Derick Hall
EDGE Isaiah Foskey
EDGE BJ Ojulari
C Joe Tippmann

With that much talent, trading down just makes sense. Maybe even twice. Picking up a 3 and a 2 next year would be great.

Lov2fish 04-28-2023 11:43 AM

Has to be Porter or Torrence at 35 if there. We need immediate help at both positions.

Kray007 04-28-2023 12:25 PM

Take Torrance, then get on the horn and sigh Rock Ya Sin.

ChaosTheory 04-28-2023 02:31 PM

CORNERBACK

I thought Banks would've been nice for Bradley, and I started hoping he'd keep sliding, but the Giants grabbed him. Porter Jr. is built exactly how Ballard/Bradley want, but I'm not confident he'll be there.

Brian Branch isn't as long or athletic as they typically go for, but he's a good football player. They'd have to be comfortable moving Kenny Moore outside permanently, though.


O-LINE

I don't know who I prefer between Schmitz and Torrence. Torrence has more talent, Schmitz is just a better football player right away. Plus Schmitz could possibly take over at C for Kelly when the time comes and I've read people rave about his leadership.

But I like Torrence, too. He's a motherfucker in the run, but needs some technique in pass pro. If he could do things like quick set more often (like Nelson does), he'd look even better because once he latches on, you're fucked. Also noteworthy when analysts mention the motor of a 345lbs. kid.

He can be a little savvy, too. At 1:26 is one of my favorite 10-second clips of him. I fucking love when guys do subtle things like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5x2QAZGPtc


TIGHT END

I'm surprised Mayer wasn't taken already, didn't expect it. He's more well-rounded, but I still like Darnell Washington. For this team with Jonathan Taylor, and with this TE room, I just like Washington's prowess as a blocker too much along with his freakish athleticism.

Especially now that we have Richardson at QB... is some 13 personnel that crazy to picture with that TE room?

CletusPyle 04-28-2023 02:40 PM

If the Colts get this draft right, and AR develops under Steichen...even he isn't a superstar, just a very good QB, this team is going to be a handful in the next couple of years. I know this team is better than what they showed last season! We had a bunch of guys under-perform last season that will be given another chance.

It is going to be a blast watching this team develop and grow over the next few seasons!:D

Hoopsdoc 04-28-2023 03:02 PM

I’d say the odds are pretty good we trade down.

IndyNorm 04-28-2023 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 264850)
Take Torrance, then get on the horn and sigh Rock Ya Sin.

That would work as long as Rock isn't all pissed off about being traded.

omahacolt 04-28-2023 05:45 PM

need a corner somewhere but give this kid some oline and weapons. support this kid with talent around him.

YDFL Commish 04-28-2023 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 264876)
need a corner somewhere but give this kid some oline and weapons. support this kid with talent around him.

I so much agree. Even though BP didn't actually succeed at this early, he kept trying. Failures were EG Green, Jerome Pathon and Quadry Ismael.

But BP kept swinging, w/Edge, Reggie, Dallas, Stokely.

Just keep swinging!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2023 07:03 PM

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...17584353562625

Quote:

Tarik Glenn is going to announce the Colts pick in the second round, per NFL release.

Dam8610 04-28-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 264894)

Neat.

IndyNorm 04-28-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 264894)

Hopefully he'll be announcing our next starting RG!!

smitty46953 04-28-2023 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 264894)

That's cool, won't be as funny as Mcafee announcing Okereke though. That was a good one. :cool:

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2023 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 264897)
That's cool, won't be as funny as Mcafee announcing Okereke though. That was a good one. :cool:

Reggie wasn't too bad either although McAfee ended up overshadowing him that night.

smitty46953 04-28-2023 07:14 PM

Steelers gotta go Porter or the Steeler fans will go beserk :cool:

Brylok 04-28-2023 07:15 PM

The pic has been in for over 2 minutes

Spike 04-28-2023 07:20 PM

Tits now on the clock after a trade, Levis?

smitty46953 04-28-2023 07:20 PM

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
The #Titans have traded up.

Spike 04-28-2023 07:22 PM

Levis to the Tits.

CletusPyle 04-28-2023 07:23 PM

They were afraid the Rams or Seahawks would grab him....good for Levis, I hope not BAD for us!

Brylok 04-28-2023 07:24 PM

Now the irrational hate he had from many Colts fans will be justified.

Spike 04-28-2023 07:26 PM

Colts turn, commercial time!

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2023 07:26 PM

Trade with Vegas

CletusPyle 04-28-2023 07:26 PM

Mayer? Best available right?

ChaosTheory 04-28-2023 07:27 PM

What's going on with Mayer?

Brylok 04-28-2023 07:27 PM

Traded back. Where do we pick now?

smitty46953 04-28-2023 07:28 PM

The #Raiders traded up with the #Colts, traded pick 38 and 141 to get up to pick 35.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-28-2023 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 264911)
Traded back. Where do we pick now?


The Colts trade: Pick 35

The Raiders trade: Pick 38, 141.

CletusPyle 04-28-2023 07:29 PM

I wouldn't trade with McDouche!:D

Dam8610 04-28-2023 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 264912)
The #Raiders traded up with the #Colts, traded pick 38 and 141 to get up to pick 35.

Too little

ChaosTheory 04-28-2023 07:30 PM

Down 3 spots for another 5th. Might trade again.

CletusPyle 04-28-2023 07:31 PM

We might regret that trade!:eek:

Spike 04-28-2023 07:31 PM

Mayer, name alone, fits the Raiders.


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