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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-16-2023 12:24 PM

Coaching Staff News and Rumors
 
Perhaps a return of Jim Bob Cooter?

Rapoport indicates the Colts are targeting him to interview for the Offensive Coordinator position. Reportedly the Bucs and Panthers were also showing interest in him this off-season although the Bucs filled their OC position last night with someone else.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1626252301051604997

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The Colts are requesting Jaguars passing game coordinator Jim Bob Cooter for their OC job under Shane Steichen, source said. He’s had several requests

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-16-2023 01:02 PM

https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...63352832933889

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Expect more of these to trickle out as Shane Steichen gets rolling on hiring his offensive staff.

OL coach might be the most important one, and I'm told Eagles assistant Roy Istvan is a top candidate.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-16-2023 10:50 PM

Another candidate for the Offensive Coordinator position:

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...05896539578368

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Colts requested Ravens wide receivers coach Tee Martin to interview for offensive coordinator role, per source.

YDFL Commish 02-17-2023 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260181)
Another candidate for the Offensive Coordinator position:

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...05896539578368

No to Tee Martin. How many WR's did he develop with the Ravens? Name one?

Colts And Orioles 02-17-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260181)



Another candidate for the Offensive Coordinator position:


Colts requested Ravens wide receivers coach l Tee Martin l to interview for offensive coordinator role, per source.





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Martin was Peyton Manning's successor as the starting quarterback at the University of Tennessee ...... Martin led them to an undefeated season and a national championship in 1998, when Manning was a rookie with the Colts.




https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/20...ebp&quality=70

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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-18-2023 02:46 PM

https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/sta...95288701591552

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News: Giants RB coach DeAndre Smith is leaving the team to join Shane Steichen’s Indianapolis Colts staff, according to a source.

Steichen & Smith worked on the same UNLV staff in 2009. Smith was the Rebels’ RBs coach. Steichen was an offensive graduate assistant.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-20-2023 03:02 PM

Steichen found his TE Coach:

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1627722850743222285

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Really good get by Shane Steichen: Colts are bringing back Tom Manning as TE coach, per Justin Williams.

Manning was in Indy in 2018 and did a great job with the trio of Ebron, Doyle, and Alie-Cox.

Now he'll try and do something similar with Granson, Woods and Ogletree.

YDFL Commish 02-20-2023 04:12 PM

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...Cxvf_--5YtAAAA

Looks like Jim Bob Cooter is coming back to Indy be our OC.

CletusPyle 02-20-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 260229)
https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...Cxvf_--5YtAAAA

Looks like Jim Bob Cooter is coming back to Indy be our OC.

Chap backs it up….welcome home Jim Bob, definitely a Cletus Pyle kind of name!:D

https://twitter.com/mchappell51/stat...4mALqSR3NqA://

JAFF 02-20-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 260230)
Chap backs it up….welcome home Jim Bob, definitely a Cletus Pyle kind of name!:D

https://twitter.com/mchappell51/stat...4mALqSR3NqA://

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-coordinator/

From PFT

ChaosTheory 02-20-2023 09:19 PM

What a relief. I was getting worried we were going to get stuck with one of these pussies with a regular sounding name.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-21-2023 11:12 AM

Uh-oh.

The Browns just fired their Special Teams Coordinator and have requested permission to interview Bubba Ventrone.


https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...41290804781056

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The Browns requested an interview with Colts special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone, who is considered a top candidate for the same job in Cleveland, per sources.

A former Browns special teams ace, Ventrone has led one of the NFL's top units in Indianapolis.
https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...43737300434945

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Bubba Ventrone has some support to stay in Indy, but he’s exploring some other options, too.
https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...47741312983041

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The Colts are allowed to block the interview request, but they’ve had weeks to create clarity here and yet here we are. This has a real chance of happening.

apballin 02-21-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260246)
Uh-oh.

The Browns just fired their Special Teams Coordinator and have requested permission to interview Bubba Ventrone.


https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...41290804781056



https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...43737300434945



https://twitter.com/NateAtkins_/stat...47741312983041

Next man up, even if he leaves it’s no big loss

ChaosTheory 02-21-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 260247)
Next man up, even if he leaves it’s no big loss

I don't know about that. ST has been a bright spot for us in recent years.

Oldcolt 02-21-2023 02:14 PM

Special teams are undervalued. Remember how infuriating it was to have shitty special teams? Don't do Cleveland any favors.

rcubed 02-21-2023 03:26 PM

for lateral move, block that shit unless bubba is really pissed about not getting the HC gig.

apballin 02-21-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260248)
I don't know about that. ST has been a bright spot for us in recent years.

Bright spot on shitty teams, on playoff teams special teams are irrelevant

Unless a spark is needed good teams fair catch / down everything so their star players get all the stats.

Without google name me the chiefs return man and punter

Oldcolt 02-21-2023 05:52 PM

Seriously? You don't think special teams are relevant on good teams. Tell that to the 1970 Colts who won the Super Bowl on a last play field goal. Or the Buffalo Bills for that matter (SB 25) who lost it the same way. Lots of games are won on field position and special teams are integral to good field position. I disagree and the fact that ChaosTheory can or cannot name the punter on KC is irrelevant. Maybe he is like me and doesn't give a shit about other teams. Your point that ST players are unheralded is very true. So are offensive lineman but that doesn't make them irrelevant. The fact that he is trying to be poached (even if it is Cleveland) supports Bubba's value. Plus I like having Bubba's on staff.

JAFF 02-21-2023 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 260251)
Bright spot on shitty teams, on playoff teams special teams are irrelevant

Unless a spark is needed good teams fair catch / down everything so their star players get all the stats.

Without google name me the chiefs return man and punter

Your mom and your mom

rm1369 02-21-2023 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 260251)
Bright spot on shitty teams, on playoff teams special teams are irrelevant

Unless a spark is needed good teams fair catch / down everything so their star players get all the stats.

Without google name me the chiefs return man and punter

Kadarius Toney returned punts for KC in the SB. In fairness the only reason I know that is because he had the longest punt return in SB history and it happened to be a pretty damn big play. Yeah if I had to pick a weakness I’d probably pick ST over O or D. But that doesn’t mean it can’t make or break your season.

Lov2fish 02-21-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 260256)
Kadarius Toney returned punts for KC in the SB. In fairness the only reason I know that is because he had the longest punt return in SB history and it happened to be a pretty damn big play. Yeah if I had to pick a weakness I’d probably pick ST over O or D. But that doesn’t mean it can’t make or break your season.

I agree with this. When you consistently put your O in good field position, and the opposing team in bad starting position it makes it somewhat important.

YDFL Commish 02-21-2023 07:59 PM

I think the Browns can steal Bubba by offering him some special designation, like assistant to the head coach or bs like that. Of course we could do the same.

My concern right now, is that we haven't made a decision on the OL coach yet.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-21-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 260258)
My concern right now, is that we haven't made a decision on the OL coach yet.


At least we know that one person won't be the OL Coach next season - Chris Strausser.

The Texans hired him to be their OL Coach. Will be interesting to see how the Texans OL plays over the next 1 - 2 years and if they respond to him.


https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1628052734036393984

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Texans have hired Colts former offensive line coach Chris Strausser, per Aaron Wilson.

Pretty clear Indy was gonna go in a different direction after last season.

Brylok 02-21-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260259)
At least we know that one person won't be the OL Coach next season - Chris Strausser.

The Texans hired him to be their OL Coach. Will be interesting to see how the Texans OL plays over the next 1 - 2 years and if they respond to him.


https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1628052734036393984

Hopefully they'll be as good as the Colts O-line was this year. And for the duration of his tenor there.

apballin 02-21-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 260253)
Seriously? You don't think special teams are relevant on good teams. Tell that to the 1970 Colts who won the Super Bowl on a last play field goal. Or the Buffalo Bills for that matter (SB 25) who lost it the same way. Lots of games are won on field position and special teams are integral to good field position. I disagree and the fact that ChaosTheory can or cannot name the punter on KC is irrelevant. Maybe he is like me and doesn't give a shit about other teams. Your point that ST players are unheralded is very true. So are offensive lineman but that doesn't make them irrelevant. The fact that he is trying to be poached (even if it is Cleveland) supports Bubba's value. Plus I like having Bubba's on staff.

So a good fg kicker is equivalent to a good special teams coach?

And why do you like having Bubba on staff? Because of the bullshit we seen on hard knocks?

I do think he’s a good coach based off the blocked punts but if he left it’s no crippling loss by any means

ChaosTheory 02-21-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 260251)
Bright spot on shitty teams, on playoff teams special teams are irrelevant

Unless a spark is needed good teams fair catch / down everything so their star players get all the stats.

Without google name me the chiefs return man and punter

I can understand where you're coming from if you mean you want your O and D units to shine enough that you don't have to rely as heavily on ST. That can be the case on teams with a truly dominant offense or defense. But ST are often overlooked and as tight as your typical NFL game is, you can't afford to neglect it.

I couldn't name the Chiefs punter, no. But I also couldn't name the Chargers punter from 2008 until I just looked him up. What I do remember is we lost a playoff game because that punter/punting unit fucked us up ALL night. This was Mike Scifres stat-line and our starting field position from that game...

1st: 51 yards to IND 10, fair catch

2nd: 57 yards to IND 15, 4 yard return

3rd: 50 yards to IND 3, downed

4th: 67 yards to IND 5, 2 yard return

5th: 38 yards to IND 9, fair catch

6th: 52 yards to IND 1, out of bounds (on 4th & 19)


Special teams also cost us big in the 2010 playoffs against the Jets with that late kickoff return to midfield. And obviously the Super Bowl onside kick that we muffed.

Those are just spotlighted examples because it was the playoffs. Point is, ST are overlooked and they shouldn't be.

apballin 02-21-2023 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 260256)
Kadarius Toney returned punts for KC in the SB. In fairness the only reason I know that is because he had the longest punt return in SB history and it happened to be a pretty damn big play. Yeah if I had to pick a weakness I’d probably pick ST over O or D. But that doesn’t mean it can’t make or break your season.

Just because he leaves doesn’t automatically make special teams a weakness.

I’d argue that the blocked FG last year vs Baltimore broke last season and Bubba was the coach then so…..

I don’t want him to leave but he is from the patriots and a Belicheck guy so him leaving wouldn’t upset me either

apballin 02-21-2023 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260265)
I can understand where you're coming from if you mean you want your O and D units to shine enough that you don't have to rely as heavily on ST. That can be the case on teams with a truly dominant offense or defense. But ST are often overlooked and as tight as your typical NFL game is, you can't afford to neglect it.

I couldn't name the Chiefs punter, no. But I also couldn't name the Chargers punter from 2008 until I just looked him up. What I do remember is we lost a playoff game because that punter/punting unit fucked us up ALL night. This was Mike Scifres stat-line and our starting field position from that game...

1st: 51 yards to IND 10, fair catch

2nd: 57 yards to IND 15, 4 yard return

3rd: 50 yards to IND 3, downed

4th: 67 yards to IND 5, 2 yard return

5th: 38 yards to IND 9, fair catch

6th: 52 yards to IND 1, out of bounds (on 4th & 19)


Special teams also cost us big in the 2010 playoffs against the Jets with that late kickoff return to midfield. And obviously the Super Bowl onside kick that we muffed.

Those are just spotlighted examples because it was the playoffs. Point is, ST are overlooked and they shouldn't be.

I absolutely remember Mike Scifres, and I’m not saying special teams don’t matter I’m just saying we’d be fine if bubba left.

Again so Scifres being a great punter means he had a great special teams coach?

If that’s the case why isn’t the Ravens special teams coach getting his door beaten down for jobs?

ChaosTheory 02-21-2023 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 260267)
Again so Scifres being a great punter means he had a great special teams coach?

If that’s the case why isn’t the Ravens special teams coach getting his door beaten down for jobs?

Not necessarily, no. I just bring it up to demonstrate that ST can not only affect the game significantly, they can outright dominate on a night like that one.

The kickers/punters are kind of their own thing. I'd never say Justin Tucker is great just because of the coach. I would say the rest of the 11-man units are significantly affected, particularly in coverage.

Again, as tight as the typical NFL game is, these plays can make games. Not just splashes like blocks or big returns. Just dealing with shitty field position less than other teams adds up over time. If your coordinator can consistently put units on the field that are disciplined and effective, the chances for all positives go up.

I think Ventrone, overall, puts out good units and increases our odds of winning. Maybe we'd be ok without him, but I'd rather not risk it. We've seen the flipside and it's ugly.

Discflinger 02-22-2023 09:14 PM

Apparently Bubba is signing with Cleveland. Sigh…

Hoopsdoc 02-22-2023 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 260250)
for lateral move, block that shit unless bubba is really pissed about not getting the HC gig.

My guess is it’s a combination of being mad he didn’t get the head job and it would be awkward working for the guy who beat him out.

Either way, it’s a loss for Indy if he leaves.

He’s a good coach and, imo, will be a head coach at some point.

apballin 02-22-2023 10:47 PM

Next man up… we’ll be fine. Get all the Patriots tree mfers outta here

Oldcolt 02-23-2023 01:18 AM

Sounds like we are going to find out how special Bubba was or wasn't.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-23-2023 11:29 AM

Official now - Ventrone to the Browns. Cleveland also gave him the Asst Head Coach title.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...77202194997248

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The Browns are hiring Bubba Ventrone as their assistant head coach/special teams coordinator, per sources.

Ventrone, 40, played four seasons in Cleveland (2009-12). Now, he returns on Kevin Stefanski’s staff after building one of the NFL’s top units in Indianapolis. A big hire.

JAFF 02-23-2023 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260288)
Official now - Ventrone to the Browns. Cleveland also gave him the Asst Head Coach title.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...77202194997248

Good for him

ChaosTheory 02-23-2023 11:54 AM

Well, shit.

YDFL Commish 02-23-2023 12:57 PM

Not a lateral move due to the Asst head coach title.

CletusPyle 02-23-2023 02:38 PM

You always hate to lose a guy named Bubba!

ChaosTheory 02-23-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 260292)
You always hate to lose a guy named Bubba!

Maybe a Jim Bob and a Bubba was too much for one team?

Brylok 02-23-2023 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 260292)
You always hate to lose a guy named Bubba!

"Ohh, Bubba, no. You died right there next to that river in Vietnam."


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