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Brylok 11-11-2022 12:57 PM

Is Leonard Done?
 
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...a-step-behind/

This doesn't sound good to me at all. Maybe he should just sit out the rest of the season...same as Taylor.
Chris Ballard is probably leaving anyway, but those big contracts he gave out are going to haunt us for a while. What a mess.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-11-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 249281)
Chris Ballard is probably leaving anyway, but those big contracts he gave out are going to haunt us for a while. What a mess.

Leonard's contract won't be too bad if he has continued injury issues this season and next.

The Colts are really only on the hook for next season at which point they could terminate the contract which would result in a $4M dead cap charge in 2024 and 2025 ($8M dead cap total). Not a huge penalty for exiting that contract.

JAFF 11-11-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 249281)
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...a-step-behind/

This doesn't sound good to me at all. Maybe he should just sit out the rest of the season...same as Taylor.
Chris Ballard is probably leaving anyway, but those big contracts he gave out are going to haunt us for a while. What a mess.

Good thing he’s not a horse, you would have shot him by now

Brylok 11-11-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 249287)
Good thing he’s not a horse, you would have shot him by now

You are the thirstiest poster on the message board.

JAFF 11-11-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 249295)
You are the thirstiest poster on the message board.

I’m surprised you havent jump off a tall building

Brylok 11-11-2022 03:58 PM

Just heard on the Dakich show that Leonard is out for the rest of the year. There it is.

Brylok 11-11-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 249302)
I’m surprised you havent jump off a tall building

Stay thirsty my friend.

Chromeburn 11-11-2022 04:01 PM

He is going on IR, will miss at the very least 4 games. If not the season.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-11-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 249312)
Just heard on the Dakich show that Leonard is out for the rest of the year. There it is.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1591154570138423320

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More tough news for the Colts: All-Pro LB Shaquille Leonard, who had a set-back with his back in practice this week, is headed to Injured Reserve, sources say.

He’s out at least the next four games, and his evaluations will dictate how much more.

JAFF 11-11-2022 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 249313)
Stay thirsty my friend.

Stay away from sharp objects.

apballin 11-11-2022 04:19 PM

Defense is probably better off without him this year

He’s been a liability when he has been out there anyway and he definitely didn’t wanna hit anyone last game

njcoltfan 11-11-2022 05:36 PM

Stick a fork in him, he's done !!

ChoppedWood 11-11-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 249334)
Stick a fork in him, he's done !!

Man if so, that is such a fucking shame, dude has the potential to be on of the best in history. If so, chalk it up to another instance of this organization's long history of really butchering injury diagnosis.

Racehorse 11-12-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 249287)
Good thing he’s not a horse, you would have shot him by now

Leonard or Ballard? or me?:eek:

Brylok 11-12-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 249356)
Leonard or Ballard? or me?:eek:

I wouldn't shoot anyone, let alone you racehorse. I just watch the games and say what I think. Jaff just talks too much. Maybe he's part of the organization's PR team? Nah, couldn't be

omahacolt 11-12-2022 06:12 PM

leonard may be done for the year. he also may be done for good.


we would be smart to sit him for the year and hope for the best

Brylok 11-12-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 249388)
leonard may be done for the year. he also may be done for good.


we would be smart to sit him for the year and hope for the best

That's all I've been saying. Good to see you're still paying attention

YDFL Commish 11-12-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 249388)
leonard may be done for the year. he also may be done for good.


we would be smart to sit him for the year and hope for the best

It's not like he would add much to this shit shown to begin with. The current LB's are doing their jobs.

HoosierinFL 11-13-2022 09:25 AM

You all said I was dumb for suggesting a package trade with Hines, Kenny Moore, and Leonard. We could’ve got a lot more for that than a utility back and a low round pick.

Oldcolt 11-13-2022 10:17 AM

He is seeing a neck specialist. Not good

Colts And Orioles 11-13-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 249418)



He is seeing a neck specialist ...... not good.




o


Neck injuries are very scary for football players.

Bert Jones' career ended in the 4th game of the 1982 season because of a broken bone in his neck ...... but Peyton Manning was able to make a fabulous comeback in 2012 after missing the entire 2011 season because of neck surgery (albeit at quarterback, of which the demands of said position are significantly different than that of a body-jarring, head-slamming linebacker.)

o

omahacolt 11-13-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 249409)
You all said I was dumb for suggesting a package trade with Hines, Kenny Moore, and Leonard. We could’ve got a lot more for that than a utility back and a low round pick.

we are still right

IndyNorm 11-13-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 249418)
He is seeing a neck specialist. Not good

Well fuck. Yeah, he's probably done. Worst comes to worst then get him to retire after June 1 b/c that would be ~$4M cap savings vs. ($4M) before June 1 per OTC.

CanuckColt 11-14-2022 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 249283)
Leonard's contract won't be too bad if he has continued injury issues this season and next.

The Colts are really only on the hook for next season at which point they could terminate the contract which would result in a $4M dead cap charge in 2024 and 2025 ($8M dead cap total). Not a huge penalty for exiting that contract.

Yes, yes, yes!

smitty46953 11-15-2022 02:49 PM

Out for season.
Season ending back surgery
Per @IanRappaport

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Colts And Orioles 11-15-2022 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 250114)



Out for the season.

Season-ending back surgery ...... Per @IanRappaport




o


Good.

Leonard needs to recover physically, mentally, and emotionally ...... and now he can concentrate on that fully, without any distracting notions of trying to get back on the field this season.

And if he does make a complete recovery, the already-solid Colts defense might be that much better in 2023 with a completely healthy maniac back in their midst.

o

ChaosTheory 11-15-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 250121)
o


Good.

Leonard needs to recover physically, mentally, and emotionally ...... and now he can concentrate on that fully, without any distracting notions of trying to get back on the field this season.

And if he does make a complete recovery, the already-solid Colts defense might be that much better in 2023 with a completely healthy maniac back in their midst.

o

I agree. The benefit of this situation is the emergence of Franklin. When he used to come in for just a few plays, you could see the unfamiliarity hampering his game.

Now he's shown himself to be a real solid LB, probably even a little better downhill and against the run than Leonard... But Leonard's an All-Pro for his range, coverage, and turnovers.

Who knows if we'll ever get to see full strength Leonard, Okereke, and Franklin (even Speed) compliment each other?

JAFF 11-15-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 249425)
we are still right

You are really good at being a dick. Made me laugh

IndyNorm 11-15-2022 08:06 PM

Probably for the best that he's being shut down, but it's not good that he has to have another back surgery :(

CanuckColt 11-15-2022 11:41 PM

He's done...all good things come to an end.

ColtBlue 11-16-2022 03:56 AM

Man, I hope his career isn't done but it's not looking good. Neck injuries are scary and hard to determine. I have had one myself, It restricts your turning of your neck and you are always scared of moving it like before for further damage.

Hope he can keep playing. If not thanks Maniac for being on this team and your great performance..


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