Osweiler to !$&@&
 

I do not believe this......we couldn't possibly be this stupid!

https://mobile.twitter.com/TonyGross...70866315419649

Sorry, work blocks twitter.

I am assuming that it is rumor that we are trading for the big O ?

Which would indeed be stupid.


Walk Worthy,

Don't know who this Tony Grossi character is, but he is full of shit. No fucking way the Colts take on Osweiler. Pagano might be that stupid, but I doubt Ballard is.

Yes, it's a tweet by a Cleveland reporter who covers the Browns. There is broader reporting that the browns are shopping the big O and his inflated contract for a second round pick and then this guy tweets this: Watch Osweiler to the Colts.

I don't know if he's a browns insider or not but I just don't see this as credible.....yikes....that would suck.

While Ballard / Pags may end up wanting to add a QB, there is NO WAY that Ballard spends $16m of 2017 cap money on Osweiler in addition to giving away a draft pick.

No way.

He has been too frugal with his cap money so far that there is no way that he spends for a failed NFL QB just because Luck will be out some number of weeks.

This is just pure speculation on the part of the reporter. He sees that Luck is out, Tolzien has been trash and says "hmmm...what would help the Browns the most? I know, trading sucky O to the Colts!" and makes the speculation.

Nothing to see here. Move along. These are not the droids you are looking for.

Walk Worthy,

It's a rumor, but I see overreactions are at an all-time high here.

No one is overreacting. Just making comments on how this rumor is just idiotic.

Dumbest thing I've read all day.

the rumor or damy?

JMV is discussing this and is largely rejecting this as an unrealistic rumor.....says none of his Colts contacts have mentioned this at all. That said, he said that this Tony Rossi guy is not a hack but a reputable journalist. I can see a scenario where Grigson throws the idea out there in Browns discussions if they are in fact looking to shop BO around......But as most have said makes no sense for Colts to take that phone call.....

Could be worse, we could sign that no talent anti American cancer kapacock or what ever his name is.

Anti American?

Haha keep pretending you know what that means

I'm clear on the meaning, definition for you....

Can you read it or do you need help?

Dictionary

anti american
an·ti-A·mer·i·can
ˌan(t)ēəˈmerikən,ˌan(t)īəˈmerikən/Submit
adjective
hostile to the interests of the United States; opposed to Americans.

I'm thinking you re going to have a rough go of it here with that approach.

If this happens, I will shoot my dick off.

He's not wrong, though.

Having said that, this is America, where you're allowed to be anti American. Just don't whine when no one signs your sorry ass BECAUSE you are anti American.

Well said.

It is completely American to protest the freedoms this nations has delivered to you upon the event of your birth on its soil. To paraphrase a movie line, "the symbol of your nation cannot just be the flag that it flies. It must also be the actions of one of its citizens to exercise that freedom by burning that flag in protest."

It is also completely American for others to look at your protest and then choose to deliver the deserved consequences to you for those protests.

The issue being is that Kapricorn wants to be an American in the first part (protest) but then wants to be un-American in the second part (not suffering negative consequences due to his actions).

I went to a great lecture about five years ago in which the lecturer took about 45 minutes to tell the history of the United States from a viewpoint of what today would be called a conservative Christian viewpoint.

He then turned around and took about 45 minutes to tell the history of the United States from a viewpoint of what today would be called a liberal activist.

Folks, both stories were beautiful; both touched on a lot of what makes American great. It was just fascinating to see the different events and actions that one side feels is central to the American experience while that same event or action did not even register to the other side as being of any significance.

I personally believe that his first version of history was more accurate in pointing to God which is why I am a conservative Christian but I could also see the attraction and greatness of the second viewpoint.

I personally believe that viewpoint was unrealistic and naive but I see how it could be compelling outside of a believe in the Christian God.

The point being is that both sides want to believe that they are acting towards a better America....just their version of it.

That does not excuse violence, threats, murder, property damage or any of the other things we are seeing that go along with today's protests. However, both sides have a vision of America that they are working towards.

Choose wisely.

And, yeah, agree that if we would sign Kapricorn, I would have to shoot my junk off.

Walk Worthy,

I hope nobody loses a wiener this year!

The right to peacefully protest isn't anti American

Stop being an ignorant racist

He is t anti American. He is protesting police brutality against black dudes. And white dudes are losing their shit over it. Like most of you fuckers stand at home or at the bar. Fake outrage due to your closeted racist views

haha you said naive but weren't talking about the god part.

God is angry at Kaepernick too because he is being un-american.

Did I mention his race? Screw you... I could care less what color he is. If we find a Blue... black... chartreuse... green capable back up QB I really don't care.

I would argue that any spoiled, over paid no talent piece of shite that grew up privileged protesting the very flag that allowed him those privileges is a racist imbecile.

The disrespect he shows those that gave him those privileges as symbolized by that flag is the problem.

He has the right to be stupid, granted by the very flag he spits on. Teams have a right to not hire him for being an anti American cancer as well

You are one angry (and probably little) man.

I do dislike anti American types. I'll grant you that

Me and that racist bastard George Foreman...

George Foreman Kevin Durant and Colin Kaepernick are unpatriotic

“‘I got all this money, but nobody knows me. So let me say something like Muhammad Ali, and maybe I’ll be different.’ That’s all that is,” he said, mocking a potential perspective of the athletes. “We came in the era (when) we were patriotic. The greatest day of my life was when I put on the colors, representing the United States [during the Olympics].”

Sorry to interrupt this riveting socio-political debate with the original point of this thread but just wanted to report that Grady and Big Joe have been discussing this rumor for the last few minutes and they commented that the Indy sports writers are now widely commenting on the rumor and some have characterized that the Colts have "discussed" this option but so far no one has characterized this rumor as something the Colts are inclined to seriously pursue. Grady's last comment was he sees this as more an indictment of how Tolzein is viewed in the organization right now vs any serious interest in the big O. I.e. he is underperforming against their expectations. As many here have said, I expect Ballard won't take on BO's crazy contract for a qb that is no better than Tolzein and may in fact be worse. I just hope this isn't an indication that Lucks shoulder isn't rebounding as they expected.

Does Tolzein suck any worse than the rest of the roster broadly speaking?
TY and an handful of others are talented, a huge majority of the others aren't and I'd include the Coach and owner.
Would adding a failed, repeatedly failed, veteran like O do ANYTHING to improve the roster?

No....it would only tie up $ that we need to sign some defensive playmakers next year. Let's face it, this is another year where our success rests largely on Lucks re-habbing right shoulder. I'm a glass half full kind of person but my expectations are pretty low for this year.

That's been a Colt problem since Manning. Manning and Luck have had to be extraordinary for the Colts to be competitive. Hopefully Ballard can turn this around. Need to find a good coach too, Pagano absolutely sucks.

"God is an American." - David Bowie

Signing Osweiler for any amount of money would be colossally stupid.

Vet minimum if Cleveland cuts him? He can't be worse than Tolzien, and if he signs for very minimum, he'll save the team money by allowing them to cut Tolzien

^ this

Hell yes you consider him at Vet min, not at the ridiculous contract the Texans gave him.

Fine. Signing him for any realistic amount of money would be colossally stupid. He's not going to sign for vet minimum.

Correct. Some dumb ass owner is gonna give him an overinflated contract out of desperation once the qb's start to fall. No way under any reasonable contract do I see him in Indy.

Ahh, yes, the good old race card. Never fails to appear in these conversations whether it's merited or not.

Its the conversational equivalent of saying I have nothing, let me just throw this out there.

He isn't unemployed because everyone else is racist. He's unemployed because he isn't very good and he decided to take a stand on something that a lot of people feel very strongly about.

If the Colts were to sign a QB, I'd much rather it be Kaepernick than Osweiler. I don't care about K's politics. Hell, I want Luck, but if he's going to be out for half the season, then give me a QB that can excite me. Kaepernick can do that, Osweiler can't. Win or lose, Kaepernick generates excitement and entertainment, and that's what I watch football to see.

I don't see it happening, because Irsay, like most owners is concerned about the bottom line. If signing Kaepernick would mean a fan lo$$ at the turnstiles, then it won't happen. I don't believe most owners really care about the politics of this, they'd sign him if they thought it would boost their revenue. As Ali once said, some people bought a ticket to his fights to see him win, others bought a ticket to see him get his butt whupped, but as long as they bought tickets, he was happy.

I agree Kaepernick > Osweiler.

Signing Kaepernick would lose zero fans...keeping Tolzien on the other hand...

bullshit

he isn't employed because racists are pissed that a black man wouldn't stand during the anthem to protest police brutality against black dudes. owners are scared because there are a lot of morons/racists that get their panties in a bunch when minorities push back. see the all live matters pissfaces.

pulling out the race card is appropriate when there are obvious race issues at hand. but i love how white people like to pretend that calling out racism is a chicken shit thing to do. like it is just bullshit.

he is not protesting america. he is protesting unjust violence in america. yet rednecks just see a black dude standing up for himself and they don't like it. you can call it bs all you want but that is true.