Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235034)

Who the fuck is Teven Jenkins???? LOL! I know Dam had a hard on for him. But hell, we are all wrong on a lot of these prospects, but not as wrong as a lot of these pricks that get paid for this shit, especially Mel Kiper Jr.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235034)

Who the fuck is Teven Jenkins???? LOL! I know Dam had a hard on for him. But hell, we are all wrong on a lot of these prospects, but not as wrong as a lot of these pricks that get paid for this shit, especially Mel Kiper Jr.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235034)

Who the fuck is Teven Jenkins????

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 235175)

The guy we should have drafted instead of Kwity Paye. Not known if he's related to Grant Delpit, the guy we should have drafted instead of Jonathan Taylor.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235193)

Or Montez Sweat instead of Rock Ya-Sin. Or D.K. Metcalf instead of Parris Campbell. Or trade up for Jeffery Simmons instead of trading down for Rock Ya-Sin. Or trade up for Mac Jones and don't let Darth Hoodie get him. These would've been terrible ideas, right? I will say there was nothing to complain about in this year's class, considering they will probably get 4 starting caliber players without having the benefit of a top 50 pick.

I hope Kwity Paye makes the second year leap so many are predicting. I'll be ready to believe it when I see it. Also I wonder how much it would've cost to jump in front of Miami to get Jaelan Phillips.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 235196)

Well, it isn't Madden, so we will never know.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235253)

We don't know that Sweat, Simmons, and Metcalf are superior quality players to Rock Ya-Sin and Parris Campbell? And if you say "We don't know how they would've done with the Colts", that same logic certainly applies to Jenkins.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 235256)

No, we don't know what it would have taken to jump in the draft.

Originally Posted by ydfl commish (Post 235257)

and we also don't know if any other teams were willing to tango.

mac jones hasn't proven shit yet?

dk metcalf has a 60% catch % and is a diva, you think ballard wanted that?

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 235257)

Mac Jones hasn't proven shit yet?

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 235257)

DK Metcalf has a 60% catch % and is a diva, you think Ballard wanted that?

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235266)

Really?

QB A: 54.1% cmp 4374 yards 23 TD 18 INT 7.0 YPA
QB B: 67.6% cmp 3801 yards 22 TD 13 INT 7.3 YPA

Care to guess who they are?

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235266)

Really?

QB A: 54.1% cmp 4374 yards 23 TD 18 INT 7.0 YPA
QB B: 67.6% cmp 3801 yards 22 TD 13 INT 7.3 YPA

Care to guess who they are?

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 235268)

Rookie year stats of 2 QB's:

QB A is Luck
QB B is Jones

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 235268)

Rookie year stats of 2 QB's:

QB A is Luck
QB B is Jones

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 235307)

comparing the rookie years of Luck and Jones is retarded.

which is why Dam did it. because he is retarded

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 235313)

Bill Russell, God bless his memory, seldom led the NBA in offensive stats. But he went 21-0 in winner take all games.

1 guy in 5 can make a huge difference. 1 guy in 11, its harder to do.

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 235280)

What is the point? That Jones is equal or superior to Luck? That he was just as good as Luck as a rookie?

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 235032)

There have been a few players mentioned recently that are on the roster bubble that were linked to the Colts in the past via mock drafts.

Thought I would start a thread for discussion.


First up - Dam's favorite OT prospect Teven Jenkins.

Year 2 for Teven....just days into training camp and the Bears are ready to move on from him.

Obviously there is a new regime in place and they didn't draft him.

There are some rumors about maturity issues - he was demoted to second team during OTA's and reportedly wasn't happy about that.


From Rapoport:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1554194648221958144



Garafolo adds:

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...94897380544515




Also need to remember that Jenkins slid on draft day due to injury concerns with his back. He had surgery on it last season but there were concerns that his back was going to be a chronic issue.


So anybody interested in Jenkins as depth?

And at what price - Day 3 draft pick or player? Since Eberflus is now Chicago's coach, he may be interested in a defensive player.

If a draft pick is involved, I would hope it would be a conditional draft pick based on either playing time or if he stays on the roster.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 235313)

Bill Russell, God bless his memory, seldom led the NBA in offensive stats ...... but he went 21-0 in winner take all games.

1 guy in 5 can make a huge difference ...... with 1 guy in 11, it's even harder to do.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 235313)

Bill Russell, God bless his memory, seldom led the NBA in offensive stats. But he went 21-0 in winner take all games.

1 guy in 5 can make a huge difference. 1 guy in 11, its harder to do.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 235349)

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This is a very good point, which makes what Peyton Manning did in his tenure with the Colts all the more astounding ...... on several occasions, Manning took otherwise below-average Colts teams and still found a way to lead them to records between 10-6 and 12-4. The Colts' 2-14 record in 2011 when Manning missed the entire season with an injury was as big a testament to his almost unparalleled value as a quarterback as the fact that he lead 4 teams to Super Bowl appearances in 2006, 2009, 2013, and 2015.

On the other hand, Bill Belichick's finest and most underrated season as a head coach was in 2008, when his team went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at quarterback for an injured Tom Brady ...... making at least somewhat of an argument that Tom Brady was, to a certain degree, a systems quarterback.

o

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235359)

Easy to do that kind of stuff when you cheat and the league just let's you.

That said, if people here don't think the QB position is the most important and impactful position in all of pro sports, they haven't been watching the NFL for the past 50 years. The largest contracts in all of sports go to QBs, despite football teams having larger rosters and similar salary caps to basketball and baseball teams (luxury tax in baseball, it's become a similar concept).

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 235373)

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Belichick was fined the maximum $500,000, the team was fined an additional $250,000, and they forfeited a 1st-round draft pick for Spygate I.

The Patriots were fined $1.1 Million, and forfeited a 3rd-round pick for Spygate II.

You could argue that the punishment should have been more severe, particularly for Spygate II, but the NFL didn't just let him do it. They probably should have suspended him half of a season for Spygate I, and for a full season for Spygate II.

o

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235101)

Jenkins probably would be the best LT on this team if healthy and acquired. Injuries may do him in, but you couldn't get a more aggressive block finishing left side of a line than pairing Jenkins with Nelson.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 235373)

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Belichick was fined the maximum $500,000, the team was fined an additional $250,000, and they forfeited a 1st-round draft pick for Spygate I.

The Patriots were fined $1.1 Million, and forfeited a 3rd-round pick for Spygate II.

You could argue that the punishment should have been more severe, particularly for Spygate II, but the NFL didn't just let him do it. They probably should have suspended him half of a season for Spygate I, and for a full season for Spygate II.

o

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 235374)

Basically, the NFL gave them a slap on the wrist. They should have suspended Belicheat for a year w/ Spygate 1, and banned him for life w/ Spygate 2, which may not have happened if they had actually given him a legitimate penalty the first go around.

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 235391)

I'm smelling a Quinn Quitcock situation here with Jenkins.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 235373)

o


Belichick was fined the maximum $500,000, the team was fined an additional $250,000, and they forfeited a 1st-round draft pick for Spygate I.

The Patriots were fined $1.1 Million, and forfeited a 3rd-round pick for Spygate II.

You could argue that the punishment should have been more severe, particularly for Spygate II, but the NFL didn't just let him do it. They probably should have suspended him half of a season for Spygate I, and for a full season for Spygate II.

o

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 235374)

Basically the NFL gave them a slap on the wrist. They should have suspended Belicheat for a year w/ Spygate 1 and banned him for life w/ Spygate 2, which may not have happened if they had actually given him a legitimate penalty the first go around.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235405)

If future prevention was the goal, any punishment short of lifetime bans for Brady and Belichick and official derecognition of all of their career accomplishments was and still is insufficient. Belichick made tens of millions and Brady made hundreds of millions, and COMBINED, they, along with billionaire Kraft who made billions off the scheme, had to pay fines of $1.1 million? The moral of that story to any smart businessperson is do it again as many times as you can.

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 235381)

That is a big "if" at this point. Jenkins has participated in a team practice once during training camp so far in his career including last season and this season.

He has had some type of undisclosed injury this season although he returned to individual workouts today and has indicated that he is close to returning to team practice.

I just think that it is a bit of a red flag that the new front office is so ready to "move on." It is not like the Bears have an All-Pro offensive line and can give away talented players so easily.

I wonder if the new front office has a different conclusion about his back and if they think it will be a continual issue throughout his playing career.

Again, I have no issue with acquiring Jenkins although I think the acquiring team needs to be careful about putting together the trade package. I wouldn't be comfortable trading a Day 1 or 2 draft pick (Rounds 1 - 3).

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 235408)

When the other owners hold their members accountable it will happen. When that happens, monkeys will fly out of Jim Irsays ass

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 235405)

If future prevention was the goal, any punishment short of lifetime bans for Brady and Belichick and official derecognition of all of their career accomplishments was and still is insufficient. Belichick made tens of millions and Brady made hundreds of millions, and COMBINED, they, along with billionaire Kraft who made billions off the scheme, had to pay fines of $1.1 million? The moral of that story to any smart businessperson is do it again as many times as you can. You can't penalize based on what you think probably happened.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 235374)

Basically the NFL gave them a slap on the wrist. They should have suspended Belicheat for a year w/ Spygate 1 and banned him for life w/ Spygate 2, which may not have happened if they had actually given him a legitimate penalty the first go around.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 235408)

When the other owners hold their members accountable it will happen. When that happens, monkeys will fly out of Jim Irsays ass

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 235424)

Jim said it happened once. However, he was likely stoned.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 235488)

I would like to party with Jim.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 235416)

You can't penalize based on what you think probably happened.

Originally Posted by Peyton Manning

I constantly think about teams stealing our signals. I know New England films me when we're up there.