Darius Leonard on PUP
 

The Maniac will start camp on the PUP list. In Colts speak that means he’s done. I’ve already accepted that.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...p-on-pup-list/

They told us at the beginning of June that this would be the case.

Done??? I thought he was supposed to miss training camp but was on track for the regular season?

He is referring to the lack of honesty with reporting injuries on W 56th St.

Now he's not putting a time table on returning. We've heard this before.

Darius Leonard now wants to be called Shaquille Leonard his middle name.

https://www.nfl.com/news/colts-lb-da...uille-going-fo

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I just call him Maniac, but Shaquille is okay. Gonna be hard to remember the first few times.

I have no issues calling anyone whatever for the most part, but for fucks sake, ask that of people your rookie year or in college or something.

I’m starting to get the feeling that this is gonna be an issue into the season.

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. I go by my middle name, so I guess I can empathize. But I also knew if I didn't speak up the first couple days of class, I'd be using my dad's name all semester.

I don't know if I can un-Darius him after 5 years. I can barely get Okereke right and I never did stop saying Antoine "Bethay-UH."

You may be right

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...k/65410024007/

He’ll be in there

Don’t doubt the maniac

Exactly.

Plus, he's not a quarterback. He plays a position that requires toughness...

I cannot get used to "Shaquille"...he will always be "Darius" to me.

Thats how I feel about Hootie

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I call Earvin Johnson "Earvin Johnson" ...... he hasn't played basketball in 26 years, so I don't see any reason why a 63 year-old man needs to be called by a cheesy nickname that was given to him when he was a sophomore in high school.

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Maybe if I knew them personally but I know the guy on the football field is Maniac

I’ll call him maniac

I sure don’t call Terry Bollea anything other than his cheesy nickname

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Oh, I'm fine with cheesy nicknames for players while they are active in their sports careers.

I'm fine with calling Darius Leonard "Maniac" while he's playing in the NFL, as I was fine with calling George Gervin "Iceman" when he played for the San Anotonio Spurs ...... I just won't be calling them those names 30 or 40 years after they retire.

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I don't know, he was always publicly known as Magic Johnson. TY Hilton's name is Eugene Marquis, but I'm sure he'll always go by TY.

I know this isn't exactly the same... but in a way, Leonard is kind of going the route of Cassius Clay and Lew Alcindor in that they changed their names after becoming world-famous, household names. Clay was a world champion before he was Muhammad Ali, Alcindor was an NBA champion and MVP before he was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. It was before my time, but I've read/heard people say they had a hard time (if ever) coming around to those name changes.

By the way, I personally think Lew Alcindor and especially Cassius Clay are two of the coolest names in sports history.

I see nothing wrong with calling them the name everyone called them when they played. After all, they are still referred to by those names nearly everywhere they are mentioned.

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I always call Muhammad Ali "Muhammad Ali", and the same with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

My reference was regarding calling people by their nicknames for their entire lives, not changing one's name due to slave-name and/or religious purposes, which was the case with both Ali and Jabbar. Ali and Jabbar were both household names before they changed their names. Ali changed his name prior to beating Sonny Liston, he only announced publicly after winning the title.

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A person has a right to be called whatever the hell they want to be called. I never understood why people give a shit what someone wants to be called. I just hope the guy comes back whole and soon.

It is usually some form of bigotry.

Lol wut?

Track the thread and use reading comprehension.

Ali claimed he should get an exemption from the draft due to religious beliefs. As I recall, many white politicians condemned him, at the same time sending their children college and getting a deferment from military service.

There were several “junior colleges” created so people who could afford it, enrolled their sons and ducked the draft. Poor kids couldnt buy their way out.

Sure, I do, too. It was just an interesting thought you gave me.

Magic Johnson and TY Hilton go by nicknames, but because they always have, there was never any mixup with the public.

In contrast, Ali and Kareem actually legally changed their names, but had a lot more mixup because the public knew them as superstars under different names. I think Leonard is getting that same kind of mixup now. The public for the past five seasons saw a perennial All-Pro and fan-favorite come up under the name Darius.

I’m sure it makes sense to you but you’ll have to explain it to me.

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With Ali, it was unquestionably bigotry.

I don't recall it being an issue with Jabbar, partly because his name-change came 7 years later, but mostly because he was much less of a controversial figure than was Ali.

Coincidentally, Jabbar (who was still Alcindor at the time) along with Jim Brown, Bill Russell, and numerous other Black athletes supported Ali at the Cleveland Summit Project in June of 1967.



June 4, 1967: The Muhammad Ali Cleveland Summit

(Zinn Education Project)

https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/t...ed-ali-summit/

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The announcers do a great job of adapting to the change. Not me. Every time they say Shaquille Leonard, I have to think. As the season progresses, and I hear it more, it will be easier. until then, I will refer to him as the Maniac.

He was Ali before I knew who he was. I lived close to Louisville, where he was raised, so
i could have heard the name Cassius Clay before then, but I didn't. I must be younger than you are, lol.

Being from the area, I heard his song quite often.

This thread has gone way off the tracks.:confused:

I prefer to use the term rails. Tracks is just a nickname for the actual rails.