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JAFF 06-16-2022 04:37 PM

January 6 hearing will show Trump pressure campaign on Pence
 
January 6 hearing will show Trump pressure campaign on Pence

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/15/polit...ils/index.html

The House January 6 committee will use its third June hearing to make the case that then-President Donald Trump's pressure campaign on his vice president to overturn the 2020 presidential election "directly contributed" to the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, which put Mike Pence's life in danger, aides said on Wednesday.

Committee aides said Thursday's hearing will focus on how Trump had driven the pressure campaign against Pence despite being told by lawyers in the White House counsel's office that the vice president did not have the authority to unilaterally subvert the election results. The panel also intends to demonstrate at the hearing that there's an "ongoing threat" to democracy from people advocating the false view that the 2020 election was rigged, the aides said.
The committee plans to move from the origination of the theory put forward by Trump attorney John Eastman that Pence had the authority to overturn the election results through Trump's weeks-long pressure campaign that led to the insurrection. The hearing, aides said, will include new materials about what Pence was doing on January 6, including his whereabouts.
Much of Thursday's presentation will be led by Democratic Rep. Pete Aguilar of California, and a committee counsel also will be asking questions during Thursday's hearing.

The panel, according to committee aides, once again plans to weave live witness testimony with depositions the panel has on video. On Tuesday, the committee teased video from former Trump White House attorney Eric Herschmann saying that he had told Eastman on January 7 that he should "get a great effing criminal defense attorney."
Greg Jacob, who served as counsel to Pence when he was vice president, and J. Michael Luttig, a retired judge and informal Pence adviser, will testify before the committee on Thursday. While former Pence chief of staff Marc Short is not testifying Thursday, aides said that his deposition testimony is expected to be shown.
Speaking with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday, Short said he had spoken with the Secret Service the day before the attack on the US Capitol.
"On the 5th I did talk to Tim," Short said of the lead Secret Service agent on Pence's detail. "At that point it did become clear that the disagreements that had been discussed and the staff were about to become far more public, and I think with thousands of people descending on Washington with hopes of a different outcome, I just thought it was important that they be alerted to that, but I did not have any specific intelligence. I did not have any knowledge that the Capitol would be attacked the way it was."
The New York Times has reported that Short warned the Secret Service that Trump was going to turn on Pence and that there could be a security risk to the vice president.
Asked if Pence believed that Trump's public pressure campaign against him was endangering him, Short said, "I think the vice president felt secure with the Secret Service around him. I don't think any of us ever envisioned what would happen on January 6."
Short told Blitzer of Trump: "I think ultimately the buck stops with the President."
"He has responsibility to listen to advice or discard advice, but I also think that there were people around the President who I think served him very poorly and I think gave very poor advice."

Lov2fish 06-16-2022 04:45 PM

CNN is the laughing stock of media outlets. It was not an insurrection. It was a riot, yes. It nowhere nearly met the criteria to be considered an insurrection. This was merely a witch hunt on Trump, which I could give a shit less about. CNN and a few others keep calling this something it wasn't.

JAFF 06-16-2022 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232821)
CNN is the laughing stock of media outlets. It was not an insurrection. It was a riot, yes. It nowhere nearly met the criteria to be considered an insurrection. This was merely a witch hunt on Trump, which I could give a shit less about. CNN and a few others keep calling this something it wasn't.

A group of people tried to force the V President of the US to change the results of a legal election. Its sedition and an insurrection, as a group of people attacked federal authorities, caused property damage and and killed officers of the law.

AND the piss poor attempt to cover their tracks, since none of them understand that emails are forever. BTW, thats where they left a trail of conspiracy, dumbassery, and prayers for a pardon.

Not an insurrection? Why where the conspirators asking for pardons?

Spike 06-17-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232821)
CNN is the laughing stock of media outlets. It was not an insurrection. It was a riot, yes. It nowhere nearly met the criteria to be considered an insurrection. This was merely a witch hunt on Trump, which I could give a shit less about. CNN and a few others keep calling this something it wasn't.

CNN sucks. Their ratings are abysmal. So abysmal that they are now changing their approach to the so called news. New sheriff in town for them. Bye Alka Seltzer and Acosta, fucking hacks. Edited this because I forgot Lemon Head.

Everything woke goes broke! Disney and Netflix are finding that out.

Racehorse 06-17-2022 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232866)
CNN sucks. Their ratings are abysmal. So abysmal that they are now changing their approach to the so called news. New sheriff in town for them. Bye Alka Seltzer and Acosta, fucking hacks.

Everything woke goes broke! Disney and Netflix are finding that out.

The new motto is: Woke is Broke

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 06-17-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232866)
Everything woke goes broke! Disney and Netflix are finding that out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 232872)
The new motto is: Woke is Broke


So the NFL is going broke?

Guess I need to start watching the USFL or XFL instead.

Spike 06-17-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 232876)
So the NFL is going broke?

Guess I need to start watching the USFL or XFL instead.

Give it some time if they keep up with their nonsense. The NBA ratings have gone down the shit hole.

JAFF 06-17-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232866)

Everything woke goes broke! Disney and Netflix are finding that out.

Disney? Broke? LOL!

https://wdwnt.com/2022/05/lawsuit-re...ment-district/

Disney has been spending its money to maintain its Florida properties. Now they are off the hook, and local tax payers are looking at a huge tax bill.

Disney has a shit ton of money and they could pick up and move to any where in the US and that new location would give them carte blanche. The Disney Channel makes more money than the park.

Who watches netflixs?

Spike 06-18-2022 01:16 AM

Disney reported an operating loss of $887 million related to its streaming services in the quarter — up from a loss of $290 million a year ago. For the first six months of Disney's fiscal year, it has lost about $1.5 billion.

Hey, but thet us not let facts get in the way of your bulllshit narratives. So damn sick of your leftist bullshit. Just fucking stop!

Lov2fish 06-18-2022 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232900)
Disney reported an operating loss of $887 million related to its streaming services in the quarter — up from a loss of $290 million a year ago. For the first six months of Disney's fiscal year, it has lost about $1.5 billion.

Hey, but thet us not let facts get in the way of your bulllshit narratives. So damn sick of your leftist bullshit. Just fucking stop!

Liberals do not deal in facts. They do not understand the meaning of irony. They absolutely do not comprehend hypocrisy, which they are astute at.

I don't argue with em much, they will drag you down to their level of retardation.

JAFF 06-18-2022 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232900)
Disney reported an operating loss of $887 million related to its streaming services in the quarter — up from a loss of $290 million a year ago. For the first six months of Disney's fiscal year, it has lost about $1.5 billion.

Hey, but thet us not let facts get in the way of your bulllshit narratives. So damn sick of your leftist bullshit. Just fucking stop!

https://seekingalpha.com/news/383717...financial-miss


From may 2022


Quote:

Updated 5:05 p.m.: After an initial 3% move higher, Walt Disney (NYSE:DIS) shares turned slightly lower in after-hours trading following fiscal second-quarter earnings where the company missed profit and sales expectations, but posted better-than-expected growth from its Disney+ streaming service.

The stock had fallen to a new 52-week low of $104.79 a share during the regular market session, but is bounced back in after-hours trading action.

For the quarter, Disney (DIS) said revenue rose 23% from a year ago, to $19.25 billion. However, that total fell short of analysts' consensus estimates of $20.04 billion in sales.

Earnings, excluding one-time items, rose to $1.08 a share, from 79 cents a share a year ago. Net earnings fell to 26 cents a share from 50 cents a share in the first quarter of 2021.

Disney+ grew faster than expected in terms of viewers, though, adding about 8 million subscribers to reach 137.7 million, above expectations for 134.4 million.

ESPN+ rose to 22.3 million subscribers, compared to expectations of 22.5 million subscribers, while Hulu subscribers hit 45.6 million, or 1 million shy of forecasts. Hulu Plus Live TV reported 4.1 million subscribers compared to expectations of 4.4 million subscribers.

Altogether, Disney (DIS) streaming services now have a total of 205 direct-to-consumer subscribers, bringing it closer to Netflix's 221 million.

Revenue from Disney Parks, Experiences and Products rose 109.6%, to $6.7 billion, Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution revenue reached $13.6 billion, up 9% from a year ago.

With regards to operating income, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products had a profit of $1.76 billion, compared to a year-ago loss of $406 million loss. Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution saw it operating profit fall 32%, to $1.94 billion, down 32% from a year
They took a beating during the pandemic but this report they are down 1 %

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/movies/w..._hdGyWbBD0fCLc

Spike 06-18-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232903)
Liberals do not deal in facts. They do not understand the meaning of irony. They absolutely do not comprehend hypocrisy, which they are astute at.

I don't argue with em much, they will drag you down to their level of retardation.

Liberalis are starting to lose steam. The it's ok to teach kids about changing their sex BS in school is getting destroyed by parents. CRT which is BS is also losing steam. Liberal based BS at the theaters and TV is watched by no one.

Americans are fed up with their bullshit.

Spike 06-18-2022 05:21 PM

LMAO. Liberal Democrats and Republicans are literally getting their asses kicked in the primaries. My faith in the people of America is getting restored. Even a conservative Latina was voted in, in Texas, which was a strong hold for liberal democrats for 100 fucking years. I know that November will decide who actually wins, but the fact is, Liberals are going to be fucked. 75% of everyone in Wyoming hates Liz Cheney, she will be gone in Nov. for sure, as she should be. Now if we can just figure out a way to get the other swamp rats like Pelosi, Shumer, Nadler, etc.... out of office, maybe we can turn this shit around.

JAFF 06-19-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232915)
Liberalis are starting to lose steam. The it's ok to teach kids about changing their sex BS in school is getting destroyed by parents. CRT which is BS is also losing steam. Liberal based BS at the theaters and TV is watched by no one.

Americans are fed up with their bullshit.


1. CRT is a college level study, and the only way it gets any traction in the public schools is because the local school board allows it.

2. Its a THEORY. In this case, about how inequalities can allow one group of people to use money and politics (one sided governance) to limit the opportunities of other groups.

The concept was proposed to create a conversation about how different groups interact and treat each other. An educational theoretical exercise. Needless to say, its been made political.

Ideally, this type of study is a social experiment, which means its open ended and has a shit ton of variables, so results are subject to interpretation. One of the major causes of inequalities, an easily measured variable is…………………………..MONEY. Yeah, No shit.

Its a tough conversation to have. It cant be a blame game. And it needs to be about the future, not the past. What can be done now, to move our society forward so everyone has an chance to improve their themselves and their children's opportunity.

It is the concept of this nation:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Colts And Orioles 06-19-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232926)



1. CRT is a college level study, and the only way it gets any traction in the public schools is because the local school board allows it.

2. Its a THEORY. In this case, about how inequalities can allow one group of people to use money and politics (one sided governance) to limit the opportunities of other groups.

The concept was proposed to create a conversation about how different groups interact and treat each other. An educational theoretical exercise. Needless to say, its been made political.

Ideally, this type of study is a social experiment, which means its open ended and has a shit ton of variables, so results are subject to interpretation. One of the major causes of inequalities, an easily measured variable is…………………………..MONEY. Yeah, No shit.

Its a tough conversation to have. It cant be a blame game. And it needs to be about the future, not the past. What can be done now, to move our society forward so everyone has an chance to improve their themselves and their children's opportunity.

It is the concept of this nation:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.




o


The subject reminds me of this man's theory on reverse discrimination.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

o

JAFF 06-19-2022 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 232927)
o


The subject reminds me of this man's theory on reverse discrimination.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

o

Yes

Racehorse 06-20-2022 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232926)
1. CRT is a college level study, and the only way it gets any traction in the public schools is because the local school board allows it.

2. Its a THEORY. In this case, about how inequalities can allow one group of people to use money and politics (one sided governance) to limit the opportunities of other groups.

The concept was proposed to create a conversation about how different groups interact and treat each other. An educational theoretical exercise. Needless to say, its been made political.

Ideally, this type of study is a social experiment, which means its open ended and has a shit ton of variables, so results are subject to interpretation. One of the major causes of inequalities, an easily measured variable is…………………………..MONEY. Yeah, No shit.

Its a tough conversation to have. It cant be a blame game. And it needs to be about the future, not the past. What can be done now, to move our society forward so everyone has an chance to improve their themselves and their children's opportunity.

It is the concept of this nation:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I think you hit the nail on the head. It has more to do with those who have money and those who do not. Like you said, the founding principles are liberty and opportunity. For decades, opportunity was denied to blacks. Dwelling on this without looking to the future instead of the past will get us (and blacks) nowhere.

What is the solution? I really do not know. Poor people usually are in the doom loop where they have no idea how to get out of poverty because the upbringing was not there like it was for those who are not in poverty. Until we figure out how to stop the loop (which I think is impossible) we cannot fix poverty and inequality.

JAFF 06-20-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 232944)
I think you hit the nail on the head. It has more to do with those who have money and those who do not. Like you said, the founding principles are liberty and opportunity. For decades, opportunity was denied to blacks. Dwelling on this without looking to the future instead of the past will get us (and blacks) nowhere.

What is the solution? I really do not know. Poor people usually are in the doom loop where they have no idea how to get out of poverty because the upbringing was not there like it was for those who are not in poverty. Until we figure out how to stop the loop (which I think is impossible) we cannot fix poverty and inequality.

Better schools for the inner city and poor rural areas. That means paying the best money to outstanding educators. Make a commitment to provide the best instruction to the most challenged. Superintendents and principals get the best pay and spend the least amount of time with students. A CPA can do most of the BS paperwork, and money counting. Pay the people who are fighting the 3 meter war of education what they are worth, hire a money guy to do the budget

Racehorse 06-21-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232971)
Better schools for the inner city and poor rural areas. That means paying the best money to outstanding educators. Make a commitment to provide the best instruction to the most challenged. Superintendents and principals get the best pay and spend the least amount of time with students. A CPA can do most of the BS paperwork, and money counting. Pay the people who are fighting the 3 meter war of education what they are worth, hire a money guy to do the budget

On a similar note, until we can fix elementary schools in the worst areas, there is no need to even consider the high schools. Too many arrive at high school without the basics of reading and Math, and therefore have no chance at the higher levels. Social promotion needs to hit the road!

JAFF 06-21-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 232985)
On a similar note, until we can fix elementary schools in the worst areas, there is no need to even consider the high schools. Too many arrive at high school without the basics of reading and Math, and therefore have no chance at the higher levels. Social promotion needs to hit the road!

You sound like an educator.

Racehorse 06-21-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232999)
You sound like an educator.

I teach high school kids. I see this every day.

Hoopsdoc 06-26-2022 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232837)
A group of people tried to force the V President of the US to change the results of a legal election. Its sedition and an insurrection, as a group of people attacked federal authorities, caused property damage and and killed officers of the law.

AND the piss poor attempt to cover their tracks, since none of them understand that emails are forever. BTW, thats where they left a trail of conspiracy, dumbassery, and prayers for a pardon.

Not an insurrection? Why where the conspirators asking for pardons?

No officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

One died of a heart attack, if I’m not mistaken.

omahacolt 06-28-2022 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232821)
CNN is the laughing stock of media outlets. It was not an insurrection. It was a riot, yes. It nowhere nearly met the criteria to be considered an insurrection. This was merely a witch hunt on Trump, which I could give a shit less about. CNN and a few others keep calling this something it wasn't.

they clearly tried to stop the results of the election. there is no debating that.

what do you call that?

omahacolt 06-28-2022 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 233009)
I teach high school kids. I see this every day.

props to you sir


good posts here. kids need help. a lot of them aren't getting it at home

JAFF 06-29-2022 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233216)
No officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

One died of a heart attack, if I’m not mistaken.

These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

Give this article

A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.
A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.Credit...Anna Moneymaker for The New York Times

Chris Cameron
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2022
Updated June 23, 2022
Follow live updates on the House committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
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The police agencies have not classified the four total suicides as “line of duty” deaths that would provide the victims’ families with enhanced benefits. Washington law excludes suicide deaths from the line-of-duty designation.
About 150 officers from the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police Department and local agencies were injured, and hundreds of workers were traumatized by the mob.

In its final report, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 could mention an official death toll from the violence.

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Democratic lawmakers have sought to include the police suicides as deaths that occurred in connection with Jan. 6. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, said on Twitter in October that the Capitol riot was “a terror attack” that left “almost 10 dead,” a toll that apparently included the four suicides.

Other Democratic members of Congress have lobbied for the police suicides to be designated as line-of-duty deaths. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, and Representatives Jennifer Wexton and Donald S. Beyer Jr., all Democrats of Virginia, wrote to Mayor Muriel E. Bowser of Washington in October asking that Officer Smith be granted a line-of-duty death designation.

Hoopsdoc 06-29-2022 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233305)
These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot
A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.

Give this article

A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.
A memorial in Washington last year for Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob storming the Capitol last Jan. 6.Credit...Anna Moneymaker for The New York Times

Chris Cameron
By Chris Cameron
Published Jan. 5, 2022
Updated June 23, 2022
Follow live updates on the House committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

WASHINGTON — As a pro-Trump protest turned into a violent attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 last year, four people in the crowd died.

Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer as rioters tried to breach the House chamber.

Kevin D. Greeson died of a heart attack, collapsing on the sidewalk west of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Rosanne Boyland appeared to have been crushed in a stampede of fellow rioters as they surged against the police.

Benjamin Philips, the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo, died of a stroke.

Mr. Greeson and Mr. Philips died of natural causes, the Washington medical examiner said in April. He added that Ms. Boyland’s death was caused by an accidental overdose.

In the days and weeks after the riot, five police officers who had served at the Capitol on Jan. 6 died.

Officer Brian D. Sicknick of the Capitol Police, who was attacked by the mob, died on Jan. 7.

Officer Jeffrey Smith of the Metropolitan Police Department killed himself after the attack.

Officer Howard S. Liebengood of the Capitol Police also died by suicide four days afterward.

The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob. The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

A bipartisan Senate report, released in June, found that the seven deaths were connected to the Capitol attack. But the report was issued a month before two Metropolitan Police officers — Gunther Hashida and Kyle DeFreytag — died by suicide in July.
ADVERTISEMENT
Continue reading the main story

The police agencies have not classified the four total suicides as “line of duty” deaths that would provide the victims’ families with enhanced benefits. Washington law excludes suicide deaths from the line-of-duty designation.
About 150 officers from the Capitol Police, the Metropolitan Police Department and local agencies were injured, and hundreds of workers were traumatized by the mob.

In its final report, the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 could mention an official death toll from the violence.

Dig deeper into the moment.
Special offer: Subscribe for $1 a week.
Democratic lawmakers have sought to include the police suicides as deaths that occurred in connection with Jan. 6. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, said on Twitter in October that the Capitol riot was “a terror attack” that left “almost 10 dead,” a toll that apparently included the four suicides.

Other Democratic members of Congress have lobbied for the police suicides to be designated as line-of-duty deaths. Senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine, and Representatives Jennifer Wexton and Donald S. Beyer Jr., all Democrats of Virginia, wrote to Mayor Muriel E. Bowser of Washington in October asking that Officer Smith be granted a line-of-duty death designation.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on January 6th.

One died of natural causes.

Thanks for confirming.

JAFF 06-29-2022 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233323)
Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on January 6th.

One died of natural causes.

Thanks for confirming.

From the above:


The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob.

The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

Hoopsdoc 06-29-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233327)
From the above:


The Capitol Police had previously said that Officer Sicknick died from injuries sustained “while physically engaging with protesters.” The Washington medical examiner later ruled that he had died of natural causes: multiple strokes that occurred hours after Officer Sicknick’s confrontation with the mob.

The medical examiner added, however, that “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

Right, I can read.

“All that transpired played a role” is pretty thin gruel for arguing murder, especially since the ME had already deemed it natural causes. No prosecutor in the land would file a charge based on that kind of specious reasoning.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

JAFF 06-29-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233331)
Right, I can read.

“All that transpired played a role” is pretty thin gruel for arguing murder, especially since the ME had already deemed it natural causes. No prosecutor in the land would file a charge based on that kind of specious reasoning.

Like I said, no officers of the law were killed on 1-6.

Getting the shit beat out of him lead to his stroke. Keep telling yourself a fairy tale

Lov2fish 06-29-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233295)
they clearly tried to stop the results of the election. there is no debating that.

what do you call that?

It was a rebellion, unsuccessful one, but a rebellion, not an insurrection, and fuck Trump, and fuck Biden even harder.

Hoopsdoc 06-30-2022 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233335)
Getting the shit beat out of him lead to his stroke. Keep telling yourself a fairy tale

He suffered no injuries on January 6th. It’s ironic that you say I’m believing a “fairy tale” when I’m the one literally going by what the medical examiner said.

Stop being a dumbass.

https://archive.ph/20210421150320/ht...th-11619010119

“The office ruled the manner of his death as natural, using a term it said applied if “disease alone causes death.”

The office said that if a death is “hastened by an injury,” it wouldn’t consider the manner of death to be natural.”

omahacolt 07-02-2022 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233345)
It was a rebellion, unsuccessful one, but a rebellion, not an insurrection, and fuck Trump, and fuck Biden even harder.

there was an organized plan to overturn the election. they tried to execute that plan. those are facts. not an opinion. people asked for pardons for a fucking reason.

i am really sorry the republican party did this to you guys. but it did happen. looking at the way the supreme court is behaving. it isn't over and you guys may very well get what you want in the end.

which is a republican dictatorship. lets not pretend it isn't. the only platform republicans have is owning the libs. and it is working. that is all any republican really cares about. how they do it is irrelevant. constitution or democracy be damned.


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