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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2022 01:49 PM

Colts acquire QB Matt Ryan for a 3rd Round draft pick
 
Initially reported by Pat McAfee and confirmed by Rapoport.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1505963518486589451

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Trade!! The Falcons are in agreement on a trade of QB Matt Ryan to the Colts, per Mike Garafolo, Tom Pelissero and me. ATL gets a 3rd back.

Fallout from the Deshaun Watson situation, with Ryan starting over in Indy. Ryan gets a contract adjustment with more guaranteed money.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1506233651952066560

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As part of the deal to acquire new QB Matt Ryan, the Colts picked up his $7.5M roster bonus and added guarantees to the entirety of his 2-year deal that has nearly $54M left overall, source said.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1505966374853689357

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So, basically, the Colts ending up sending the extra third-rounder they got in the Carson Wentz deal down to Atlanta for Matt Ryan.

Believe Colts will owe Ryan around $24M this year and $28M next, which they can totally make work.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1505966060524220431

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Last year in Atlanta, Matt Ryan had a 29th-ranked defense and a 31st-ranked run game. Calvin Ridley was hurt half the year.

Colts were 9th in defense and 2nd in the run. He'll join a team with a better o-line and some emerging weapons in Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman, Jr.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...74141492637713

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One key on-field difference between Ryan and the other QBs Colts were talking about/linked to, keeping in mind that Garoppolo’s shoulder was an issue for Indy:

Accuracy: Ryan’s at 65.5 percent lifetime and it’s gone up to more than 67 in his 30’s.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...65258673958918

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Matt Ryan never asked the Falcons for a new contract -- that was not a part of the equation, per sources. He just felt like the time had come to move on from Atlanta. Ryan signed off on a trade to Indianapolis because he felt like the Colts have a roster that's built to win now.
https://twitter.com/FieldYates/statu...66794955280388

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Matt Ryan’s trade will incur a dead cap hit of $40.525M for the Falcons, the largest dead cap hit in NFL history by nearly $7M.

Puck 03-21-2022 01:51 PM

Love it!!!!!

Mr. Session 03-21-2022 01:53 PM

I called it lol

I’m happy. I hope this works out.

Puck 03-21-2022 01:54 PM

Ballard made a hell of a deal there!!! He was able to go from Wentz to Ryan and picked up a 3rd round pick


I am sure there will still be people bitching though.

HoosierinFL 03-21-2022 01:55 PM

I've been skeptical of Ryan thinking he might be toast age-wise, but maybe his supporting cast was really that bad. But here's to hoping otherwise!

MeSayDayo 03-21-2022 02:00 PM

I would expect us to bring in Julio Jones and maybe a Robert Tonyan now?
I would have said Hayden Hurst but see he landed in Cinci.

All and all, great damage control displayed by CB who must be getting used to it. Ryan should be a solid fit in Indy, and I am just as interested to see how and why we adjust our O to him as opposed to vice versa.

Now can we see some damn FA's come into town? Let the floodgates open folks.

albany ed 03-21-2022 02:01 PM

Now let's get a quality LT to protect his ass and another WR for him to throw to.

Coltsalr 03-21-2022 02:03 PM

Very happy over this.

Very.

Spike 03-21-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226973)
Ballard made a hell of a deal there!!! He was able to go from Wentz to Ryan and picked up a 3rd round pick


I am sure there will still be people bitching though.

Not me Puck, great move by Ballard here.

Butter 03-21-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 226975)
I would expect us to bring in Julio Jones and maybe a Robert Tonyan now?
I would have said Hayden Hurst but see he landed in Cinci.

All and all, great damage control displayed by CB who must be getting used to it. Ryan should be a solid fit in Indy, and I am just as interested to see how and why we adjust our O to him as opposed to vice versa.

Now can we see some damn FA's come into town? Let the floodgates open folks.

Julio looks like toast unless he will sign a super bargain deal like near vet min with incentives hard pass.

CletusPyle 03-21-2022 02:07 PM

Personally, I am a little disappointed, Matt Ryan is about as exciting as wet paint drying! But, he may be just what this team needs...he will certainly have my support as a fan!

rcubed 03-21-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 226979)
Julio looks like toast unless he will sign a super bargain deal like near vet min with incentives hard pass.

given all the options I am very happy with this, especially only giving up a 3rd!

ChaosTheory 03-21-2022 02:10 PM

Thank God. I was going to have a hard time stomaching Mayfield or Winston. Is there any word on that $40m cap hit? Atlanta can't move that, can they?

If so... the fact that we sold Wentz and his contract for two 3rd-rounders and picked up Ryan for a single 3rd-rounder is impressive.

Hoopsdoc 03-21-2022 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 226980)
Personally, I am a little disappointed, Matt Ryan is about as exciting as wet paint drying! But, he may be just what this team needs...he will certainly have my support as a fan!

He’s the anti Wentz, that’s for sure.

I like this deal. Heckuva a move by Ballard.

rcubed 03-21-2022 02:12 PM

per holder

Stephen Holder
@HolderStephen
I'm told there will be no significant changes to Matt Ryan's contract after his trade to the Colts from the Falcons. So, Colts have him for two years at $24.7 million this year and $28.2 million in 2023 (based on his present contract terms.

ChaosTheory 03-21-2022 02:13 PM

Just read... $40.5m dead cap hit for the Falcons.

rcubed 03-21-2022 02:15 PM

Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball
wow, so the Colts...

• added Matt Ryan
• lost Carson Wentz
• weren't forced to extend Ryan's deal
• gained a 3rd that may be a 2nd
• made ATL eat $40,525,000 dead cap*
• lowered Ryan's 2022 cap hit to $28M, less than Carson Wentz's

albany ed 03-21-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 226988)
He’s the anti Wentz, that’s for sure.

I like this deal. Heckuva a move by Ballard.

Ryan = Ice in his blood

Wentz = ice in his brain

It's a shame, Wentz is talented and has the heart of a lion but the poise of a headless chicken.

rm1369 03-21-2022 02:18 PM

I have no complaints on the move. However, if they leave obvious holes in the roster like they’ve done with Rivers and Wentz I will. The deal only makes sense to try to win now. So fucking try.

ChaosTheory 03-21-2022 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 226992)
Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball
wow, so the Colts...

• added Matt Ryan
• lost Carson Wentz
• weren't forced to extend Ryan's deal
• gained a 3rd that may be a 2nd
• made ATL eat $40,525,000 dead cap*
• lowered Ryan's 2022 cap hit to $28M, less than Carson Wentz's

Yeah, but Ballard could've had Trubisky a week ago. Instead he was just sitting on his ass doing nothing.

Oldcolt 03-21-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 226992)
Warren Sharp
@SharpFootball
wow, so the Colts...

• added Matt Ryan
• lost Carson Wentz
• weren't forced to extend Ryan's deal
• gained a 3rd that may be a 2nd
• made ATL eat $40,525,000 dead cap*
• lowered Ryan's 2022 cap hit to $28M, less than Carson Wentz's

We end the season, Irsay is pissed beyond belief-seems to blame Wentz, Ballard lets everyone with a brain know that Wentz is a gonner. From that to where we are now at QB, essentially trading Wentz for Ryan and either a second or third round draft choice while lowering our cap hit for QB AND not extending Ryan when every QB traded gets an extension shows that I personally don't know shit. This is the work of someone who is pretty damn good at his job. Well done Ballard. You are the man. Very tasty crow I might add.

Chaka 03-21-2022 02:37 PM

Here are a few tweets from Stampede Blue writer Chris Shepherd, who analyzed the film on Ryan and concluded that he's nowhere near being over the hill:

https://twitter.com/NFLscheme/status...74550889508865

https://twitter.com/NFLscheme/status...75638976520203

https://twitter.com/NFLscheme/status...24738224463878

Chaka 03-21-2022 02:39 PM

Amazing how quickly the Colts' league-high cap space has disappeared now that a QB is here. Only $16M or so left.

Chaka 03-21-2022 02:48 PM

The 3rd rounder going to Atlanta is apparent the Colts third-rounder (no. 82). The Colts keep the better third rounder (no 73) obtained from Washington, per the below Joel Erickson tweet:

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...69182512496651

So for swapping out Wentz for Ryan, the Colts receive:

Slightly higher 2nd and 3rd round picks this year
At least a 3rd next year (but hopefully a 2nd)
about $4M more in cap space this year ($24M to Ryan vs. $28M to Wentz)
Puck remains here and won't curse Ballard or the Colts

But the Colts lose:

7th Rounder this year
2M in cap space next year ($28M to Ryan vs. $26M to Wentz)
One remaining year of Wentz control at a QB-reasonable salary ($28M)

ChaosTheory 03-21-2022 02:56 PM

Obviously the Colts can win now. Curious to see what else they do in FA and the draft.

The other perk with this whole deal is that 2023 is supposed to be deep at QB. Ryan didn't force a contract extension on his 2-yrs, so it could be a great situation to bring a young guy in under him. The fact that the Colts will seemingly come out of this Wentz-Ryan transition with an added 2nd-rounder means we are back to having capital if Ballard wants to move up for a guy.

Butter 03-21-2022 02:58 PM

The recovery by Ballard on a poor trade result from Wentz has been pretty amazing.

Spike 03-21-2022 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226999)
The 3rd rounder going to Atlanta is apparent the Colts third-rounder (no. 82). The Colts keep the better third rounder (no 73) obtained from Washington, per the below Joel Erickson tweet:

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...69182512496651

So for swapping out Wentz for Ryan, the Colts receive:

Slightly higher 2nd and 3rd round picks this year
At least a 3rd next year (but hopefully a 2nd)
about $4M more in cap space this year ($24M to Ryan vs. $28M to Wentz)
Puck remains here and won't curse Ballard or the Colts

But the Colts lose:

7th Rounder this year
2M in cap space next year ($28M to Ryan vs. $26M to Wentz)
One remaining year of Wentz control at a QB-reasonable salary ($28M)

Ballard pisses me off sometimes, but this was a hell of a deal he made. Now, LT and a WR/TE.

omahacolt 03-21-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226973)
Ballard made a hell of a deal there!!! He was able to go from Wentz to Ryan and picked up a 3rd round pick


I am sure there will still be people bitching though.

can't be mad at that.


he made a mistake with wentz and did what he had to do to fix it. and he fixed it and then some. that is what you want. don't live with a mistake if you can fix it

nate505 03-21-2022 03:06 PM

Not my preferred choice, but I don't hate it either. Hopefully he has a few years left. Getting him for just a 3rd is pretty great.

omahacolt 03-21-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226999)
The 3rd rounder going to Atlanta is apparent the Colts third-rounder (no. 82). The Colts keep the better third rounder (no 73) obtained from Washington, per the below Joel Erickson tweet:

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...69182512496651

So for swapping out Wentz for Ryan, the Colts receive:

Slightly higher 2nd and 3rd round picks this year
At least a 3rd next year (but hopefully a 2nd)
about $4M more in cap space this year ($24M to Ryan vs. $28M to Wentz)
Puck remains here and won't curse Ballard or the Colts

But the Colts lose:

7th Rounder this year
2M in cap space next year ($28M to Ryan vs. $26M to Wentz)
One remaining year of Wentz control at a QB-reasonable salary ($28M)


they also get:

not having wentz on the team

Racehorse 03-21-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226970)
Love it!!!!!

I thought you wanted Baker

Lov2fish 03-21-2022 03:17 PM

Ryan is legendary for his healthy life style, Ala Tom Brady. Should be 3-4 years of solid qb play. I am much happier with this than Mayfield or those scrubs in the trash heap.

albany ed 03-21-2022 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226998)
Amazing how quickly the Colts' league-high cap space has disappeared now that a QB is here. Only $16M or so left.

I think it's time to lock up Nelson, and with a new contract, they may be able to get some of his 13.5 million off the books with one of those creative contracts.

Thorgrim 03-21-2022 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226970)
Love it!!!!!

Best move the colts have made in years.

Chromeburn 03-21-2022 03:41 PM

This was a master stroke. I’ve been critical of Ballard over the years. But getting what he did for Wentz then getting Ryan for a third. What a boss.

albany ed 03-21-2022 03:46 PM

Getting Ryan seems like a very good move, but he needs to deliver or it's not a good move and without a solid LT to protect his blind side, he might not last the season.

JAFF 03-21-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 226995)
Yeah, but Ballard could've had Trubisky a week ago. Instead he was just sitting on his ass doing nothing.

Maybe trubisky wasnt interested. You think people are just lined up to be on the colts?

JAFF 03-21-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 227005)
The recovery by Ballard on a poor trade result from Wentz has been pretty amazing.

Amazing for a guy who doesnt know what he is doing.


That is not directed at you. Its for others and they know who they are.

JAFF 03-21-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 227008)
can't be mad at that.


he made a mistake with wentz and did what he had to do to fix it. and he fixed it and then some. that is what you want. don't live with a mistake if you can fix it

Well said.

ChaosTheory 03-21-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 227023)
Maybe trubisky wasnt interested. You think people are just lined up to be on the colts?

I'll put the sarcasm disclaimer next time.


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