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Racehorse 01-27-2019 05:30 PM

Luck in Pro Bowl
 
Not sue why, but he is not looking like the same Luck we saw in the regular season. Accuracy seems ff. Hope it is just because of who he is throwing to and not something lingering from the KC game.

PowayColt 01-27-2019 05:57 PM

Not familiar with teammates, rain, not much at stake. I think he's OK.

Mr. Session 01-27-2019 07:10 PM

People actually watch the pro bowl?

DrSpaceman 01-27-2019 07:34 PM

Who the fuck cares?

Pro Bowl worries, really?

As stated, unfamiliar WRs, unfamiliar coaches, players, schemes.

The game is a waste.

They should just play a huge Madden electronic game, everyone elected plays as themselves in Madden

Colts And Orioles 01-27-2019 08:12 PM

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While I never watch the Pro Bowl because of the fact that it is meaningless (I'm not watching this one), I can understand a tad/bit of paranoia in regard to Luck for a Colts fan who does watch it ...... he played well and was healthy the entire 2018 season, but he did miss the entire season last year due to injury, and so there is always that little bit of doubt anytime anything looks wrong with him (which will probably continue until about the 3rd or 4th game of his 2nd season back from injury, will will mean late September of 2019.)


So while I don't care if Luck throws 5 INT's in the Pro Bowl, I do care that he looks comfortable and effortless in doing so.

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GoBigBlue88 01-27-2019 10:22 PM

Just because I didn't want to start a new thread on this: how would you describe Eric Ebron? Gamechanger? Weapon? Total system product?

I was having an interesting discussion with a friend before the HOU playoff game where we were debating how many real ballers the Colts have. Like, guys who are damn good regardless of system/scheme and would excel on any team.

I suggested the following as ballers: Luck, Nelson, Hilton, Autry (when healthy), Leonard and Kenny Moore. With Castonzo in that almost tier.

Friend was adamant Ebron should be there. My take was that he is a mismatch weapon, but not really an out-and-out good player. Inside the 20s, he's a nightmare. Between the 20s, he's completely pedestrian unless he gets the perfect matchup.

Glad he's on the team, but just occurred to me a lot of fans probably have differing opinions on the guy.

Dam8610 01-27-2019 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 108252)
Just because I didn't want to start a new thread on this: how would you describe Eric Ebron? Gamechanger? Weapon? Total system product?

I was having an interesting discussion with a friend before the HOU playoff game where we were debating how many real ballers the Colts have. Like, guys who are damn good regardless of system/scheme and would excel on any team.

I suggested the following as ballers: Luck, Nelson, Hilton, Autry (when healthy), Leonard and Kenny Moore. With Castonzo in that almost tier.

Friend was adamant Ebron should be there. My take was that he is a mismatch weapon, but not really an out-and-out good player. Inside the 20s, he's a nightmare. Between the 20s, he's completely pedestrian unless he gets the perfect matchup.

Glad he's on the team, but just occurred to me a lot of fans probably have differing opinions on the guy.

I wouldn't call him a game changer, but he's likely the #2 receiving option on this team, who becomes #1 in the red zone. He's a matchup nightmare who is difficult to cover, but too frequently has drop issues to be truly elite.

Maniac 01-28-2019 12:23 AM

Redzone game changer

Racehorse 01-28-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 108262)
Redzone game changer

He is what makes our red zone success rate go up. Teams lose track of him down there for some reason. That, and he rarely drops a ball there, while he is known to lose track of it between the 20s.

Dam8610 01-28-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 108269)
He is what makes our red zone success rate go up. Teams lose track of him down there for some reason. That, and he rarely drops a ball there, while he is known to lose track of it between the 20s.

Less RAC possibilities inside the 20, the most important thing there is catching the ball. Maybe he needs to extend his redzone mentality to the whole field.

southside asshole 01-28-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 108252)
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Friend was adamant Ebron should be there. My take was that he is a mismatch weapon, but not really an out-and-out good player. Inside the 20s, he's a nightmare. Between the 20s, he's completely pedestrian unless he gets the perfect matchup.

Glad he's on the team, but just occurred to me a lot of fans probably have differing opinions on the guy.

This is my exact perception of him as well.

Ebron is a difficult weapon to make full use of. His value in the redzone means he's got to be on the field, but a lot of drives have also died bouncing off his hands as well. I think he still brings more value than liability, but his position and size should mean that he's a killer possession target in short and medium yardage, and that just has not been the case.

GoBigBlue88 01-28-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by southside asshole (Post 108286)
This is my exact perception of him as well.

Ebron is a difficult weapon to make full use of. His value in the redzone means he's got to be on the field, but a lot of drives have also died bouncing off his hands as well. I think he still brings more value than liability, but his position and size should mean that he's a killer possession target in short and medium yardage, and that just has not been the case.

On the same hand -- while I totally get what you mean -- I looked back on a lot of games this year and realized "wow, Ebron had a bigger game than I realized". The Patriots game in particular stuck out, but he was big vs HOU and TEN in particular as well. I think he finished top 5 in all TE receiving yards, so it wasn't JUST a redzone thing...

But I completely agree that it feels like he's value-neutral between the 20s, still.

DrSpaceman 01-28-2019 03:16 PM

Ebron is great inside the 20

Doyle is great everywhere else on the field. Really missed him in the playoffs, for catching and blocking

GoBigBlue88 01-28-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 108304)
Ebron is great inside the 20

Doyle is great everywhere else on the field. Really missed him in the playoffs, for catching and blocking

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if Colts draft a TE because of this. Just too important to their offense for an injury to make you lean on Mo Alie-Cox (fine blocker but...) or one of Ebron/Doyle to do everything.

Chromeburn 01-28-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 108304)
Ebron is great inside the 20

Doyle is great everywhere else on the field. Really missed him in the playoffs, for catching and blocking

We lost a valuable piece when he went down. I wonder if they spend a pick on a well rounded TE this year.

Chromeburn 01-28-2019 05:21 PM

I think Ebron is a real matchup problem. I think he runs a 4.6 at 6’4, with such a wide body and pretty good catch radius, he makes a good weapon that teams have trouble matching up against. I think he should be the third or fourth receiver. With a lot of red zone targets. But he is good in the middle of the field also. I don’t like him as a third down move the chains guy. We could really use a hands receiver for that. Good route running good hands. Inman helped there a lot, but he is 30, not a guy you can count on for a long time.

kitekrazy 01-28-2019 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by southside asshole (Post 108286)
This is my exact perception of him as well.

Ebron is a difficult weapon to make full use of. His value in the redzone means he's got to be on the field, but a lot of drives have also died bouncing off his hands as well. I think he still brings more value than liability, but his position and size should mean that he's a killer possession target in short and medium yardage, and that just has not been the case.

Like Tom Waddle.


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