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1965southpaw 08-16-2017 03:30 PM

JMV reporting update on Luck
 
Just listening to JMV and he's reporting via his sources (same sources he used to break the Manning neck injury news a few years back) that as of yesterday Andrew is throwing touch passes about 30ish yards downfield. He was quick to clarify that he's still very much day to day as they monitor how his shoulder reacts to each new milestone in his recovery.....ie still uncertain whether he will make the season opener with the Rams which is 25 days out but it seems he is definitely progressing and definitely throwing footballs not tennis balls at this stage. My impression is that his sources are Colts insiders and reliable but as with all anonymous sources I will take this with a grain of salt until I see him throwing myself. Also, in addition to throwing accurately with a clean pocket I wonder when he will be ready to take some hits when the pocket breaks down.....With that in mind, I still think it's likely he misses the first game or two as they seem to really be taking a long term approach vs. hurry up and get him on the field. Still, I think this is a bit of positive news.

DrSpaceman 08-16-2017 09:06 PM

That is good to know, and thanks for the info, but honestly its just confirms what we all kind of suspected and/or knew anyway thus far.

He is progressing, he will be back probably sometime in September but not sure it will be for week one as of yet.

njcoltfan 08-17-2017 06:14 AM

If Luck doesn't come off PUP next week, I think he misses the first week, and probably week two also.

Indiana V2 08-17-2017 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 21049)
If Luck doesn't come off PUP next week, I think he misses the first week, and probably week two also.

Honestly when Luck was placed on the PUP list i figured the team was planning on him missing the first few weeks of the season.

rcubed 08-17-2017 12:41 PM

Living in LA, I was planning on going to the first game against the Rams. It's looking like I will not spend the money on tickets and just watch from home.

1965southpaw 08-17-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 21095)
Living in LA, I was planning on going to the first game against the Rams. It's looking like I will not spend the money on tickets and just watch from home.


They are now reporting Kelly out for 2 months......I think it's a lock that they will not put Luck under a rookie center against the Rams. Save your $$

smitty46953 08-17-2017 02:36 PM

Whoever is back there at QB , they better hope Aaron Donald does holdout. He will kill a UDFA Center or about any other Center in league. :cool:

njcoltfan 08-17-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 21101)
They are now reporting Kelly out for 2 months......I think it's a lock that they will not put Luck under a rookie center against the Rams. Save your $$

The Colts medical staff has got to be Moe, Larry, and Curly!!

indycolts2 08-17-2017 03:35 PM

This should have been the news about 2 weeks ago. What fucking good does it to do to sit on this until now? Unless they didn't want some F/A to have leverage in a negotiation. Priceless that the guy they signed that would have been the backup is also unavailable.

Not crying "the sky is falling" but one thing this team needed going into this season was good health. That's kind of stating the obvious because every team needs that but if Luck is going to miss any time at all they need all hands on deck everywhere else. Get tired of that "next man up" mantra particularly when it comes out of Pagano's mouth.

indycolts2 08-17-2017 04:17 PM

I'm not an excuse maker for Pagano but I can certainly understand the frustration on his part. The list of players in the article is priceless.

http://www.espn.com/blog/indianapoli...colts-injuries

Thorgrim 08-17-2017 05:44 PM

Screw Clappy. Football is tough and injuries are unavoidable to some extent but good conditioning and sound technique can go a long way towards alleviating both frequency and severity of injuries. Fundamentals has not been a strong point with this team for a long time.

apballin 08-17-2017 08:08 PM

Sucks about Kelly but if Luck is ready he's going to play you can't hold him out just because Kelly is hurt they are not a tandem start

omahacolt 08-17-2017 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 21156)
Screw Clappy. Football is tough and injuries are unavoidable to some extent but good conditioning and sound technique can go a long way towards alleviating both frequency and severity of injuries. Fundamentals has not been a strong point with this team for a long time.

Well said

Dewey 5 08-17-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 21146)
I'm not an excuse maker for Pagano but I can certainly understand the frustration on his part. The list of players in the article is priceless.

http://www.espn.com/blog/indianapoli...colts-injuries

Pagano ready to play the injury card again for his incompetence to save his job. Ballard won't buy it but Irsay will. Then he will make clappy & Ballard go in a room & buttfuck each other until Pagano convinces Ballard that it's not his fault that the team blows.

The beat goes on with no end in sight.

.

albany ed 08-17-2017 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 21193)
Pagano ready to play the injury card again for his incompetence to save his job. Ballard won't buy it but Irsay will. Then he will make clappy & Ballard go in a room & buttfuck each other until Pagano convinces Ballard that it's not his fault that the team blows.

The beat goes on with no end in sight.

.

You really need to get out more.

Racehorse 08-18-2017 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 21195)
you really need to get laid more.

fify

IndyNorm 08-18-2017 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 21193)
Pagano ready to play the injury card again for his incompetence to save his job. Ballard won't buy it but Irsay will. Then he will make clappy & Ballard go in a room & buttfuck each other until Pagano convinces Ballard that it's not his fault that the team blows.

The beat goes on with no end in sight.

.

If that happens I hope Ballard bends Clappy over and rails him so hard that Clappy can't shit right for a year.

Indiana V2 08-18-2017 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 21156)
Screw Clappy. Football is tough and injuries are unavoidable to some extent but good conditioning and sound technique can go a long way towards alleviating both frequency and severity of injuries. Fundamentals has not been a strong point with this team for a long time.

Why Irsay decided to waste yet another season by keeping Pagano is unfathomable, the sooner Pags is gone the sooner the franchise can be taken seriously again. What a shame.

apballin 08-18-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 21229)
Why Irsay decided to waste yet another season by keeping Pagano is unfathomable, the sooner Pags is gone the sooner the franchise can be taken seriously again. What a shame.

Why Ballard gets a pass on this is beyond me, the dude preached competition all off season yet failed to address certain positions lacking depth. Injuries aren't Pagano's fault not having anyone behind the guys is on Ballard, let's reanalyze the draft and FA pickups- did we really need Aiken? Christine Michael? lol

Let's be honest he nailed the obvious= Hankins, Simon, Sheard, Hooker, and Wilson

The rest of the draft and the rest of the FA's may not contribute shit this year if ever

sherck 08-19-2017 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21292)
Why Ballard gets a pass on this is beyond me, the dude preached competition all off season yet failed to address certain positions lacking depth. Injuries aren't Pagano's fault not having anyone behind the guys is on Ballard, let's reanalyze the draft and FA pickups- did we really need Aiken? Christine Michael? lol

Let's be honest he nailed the obvious= Hankins, Simon, Sheard, Hooker, and Wilson

The rest of the draft and the rest of the FA's may not contribute shit this year if ever

Hmmmmm.....

Woods = Starting NT
Stewart = Depth NT / Depth DT
Banner = Depth OT3 or OT4
Bostic = Starting ILB
Hairston = Nickle CB or CB4 (Davis, Wilson, Melvin, Morris/Hairston)
Basham = OLB3 whom will rotation in a lot

Nice tinted glasses. While it was obvious that retaining Pagano was Irsay's call, trying to say that Ballard did not address depth issues is pretty silly. He brought in a ton of guys for depth at many different positions.

Walk Worthy,

Racehorse 08-19-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21292)
Why Ballard gets a pass on this is beyond me, the dude preached competition all off season yet failed to address certain positions lacking depth. Injuries aren't Pagano's fault not having anyone behind the guys is on Ballard, let's reanalyze the draft and FA pickups- did we really need Aiken? Christine Michael? lol

Let's be honest he nailed the obvious= Hankins, Simon, Sheard, Hooker, and Wilson

The rest of the draft and the rest of the FA's may not contribute shit this year if ever

Holy Stupidity, Batman!

This post is so bad, I don't even know where to start! Did someone hack your account?

IndyNorm 08-19-2017 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21292)
Why Ballard gets a pass on this is beyond me, the dude preached competition all off season yet failed to address certain positions lacking depth. Injuries aren't Pagano's fault not having anyone behind the guys is on Ballard, let's reanalyze the draft and FA pickups- did we really need Aiken? Christine Michael? lol

Let's be honest he nailed the obvious= Hankins, Simon, Sheard, Hooker, and Wilson

The rest of the draft and the rest of the FA's may not contribute shit this year if ever

Ballard actually did address C/OG depth with Schwenke. Unfortunately got injured near the end of OTAs, which is even less the fault of the GM and the head coach. IMHO they shouldn't have released Blythe before TC but maybe he saw the writing on the wall and asked to be let go.

As far as depth at other positions, you can't expect him to fix everything in one off season.

Chromeburn 08-19-2017 05:53 PM

I can't help in the back of my mind wonder if Ballard and Irsay think of this year as a rebuilding yer. 16+ under the cap, no real backup QB. Starting QB and starting center both down to at the latest, mid-season.

Chromeburn 08-19-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 21193)
Pagano ready to play the injury card again for his incompetence to save his job. Ballard won't buy it but Irsay will. Then he will make clappy & Ballard go in a room & buttfuck each other until Pagano convinces Ballard that it's not his fault that the team blows.

The beat goes on with no end in sight.

.

Don't know if it will save him this time around though. I just hate changing schemes. Then the players have to learn it. You have to draft players to fit it. Whole thing is a headache.

omahacolt 08-19-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 21349)
Don't know if it will save him this time around though. I just hate changing schemes. Then the players have to learn it. You have to draft players to fit it. Whole thing is a headache.

and clappy pagano isnt a fucking headache

Chromeburn 08-19-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 21350)
and clappy pagano isnt a fucking headache

It's pick your poison. If we could stay with a 3-4 I would be happy. A change might rejuvenate the team.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2017 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 21349)
Don't know if it will save him this time around though. I just hate changing schemes. Then the players have to learn it. You have to draft players to fit it. Whole thing is a headache.

Dude, a good coach can and should make it work. You can't stick with what you KNOW won't work because you hate making changes.

Like a bandaid, just rip it off fast.

omahacolt 08-19-2017 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 21358)
It's pick your poison. If we could stay with a 3-4 I would be happy. A change might rejuvenate the team.

We don't have great 3-4 players and most can play either system. Your concerns are dumb

apballin 08-19-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 21320)
Holy Stupidity, Batman!

This post is so bad, I don't even know where to start! Did someone hack your account?

Nah I just hate that everyone is giving Ballard a pass on every move because he's the new "nice guy" GM when there's already been some Grigson like moves IMO

apballin 08-19-2017 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 21317)
Hmmmmm.....

Woods = Starting NT
Stewart = Depth NT / Depth DT
Banner = Depth OT3 or OT4
Bostic = Starting ILB
Hairston = Nickle CB or CB4 (Davis, Wilson, Melvin, Morris/Hairston)
Basham = OLB3 whom will rotation in a lot

Nice tinted glasses. While it was obvious that retaining Pagano was Irsay's call, trying to say that Ballard did not address depth issues is pretty silly. He brought in a ton of guys for depth at many different positions.

Walk Worthy,

IMO his draft was weak, Hooker was a value pick Wilson was a need Basham was a waste when you signed Simon, Sheard, Mingo, and still have Ayers

So far Basham, Hairston, and Walker look terrible. ILB was a dire need coming into the draft and you wait until late to draft Walker??? Every great defense has that leader in the middle and it's still a hole on this D, you grabbed your Ngata (Hankins) your Ed Reed (Hooker) so wheres Ray Lewis???

DrSpaceman 08-19-2017 11:17 PM

You aren't going to rebuild a whole bad defense in one year

especially when your coach sucks as well and is one of the primary problems

apballin 08-19-2017 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 21467)
You aren't going to rebuild a whole bad defense in one year

especially when your coach sucks as well and is one of the primary problems

Pagano doesn't suck. I'm sure John Gruden/Madden would be getting the same results with whose out there in 2 preseason games

rcubed 08-20-2017 12:08 AM

Oh yay, pagano vs sucky roster resurrection

njcoltfan 08-20-2017 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 21348)
I can't help in the back of my mind wonder if Ballard and Irsay think of this year as a rebuilding yer. 16+ under the cap, no real backup QB. Starting QB and starting center both down to at the latest, mid-season.

In all honesty, this is a rebuilding year.

omahacolt 08-20-2017 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21469)
Pagano doesn't suck. I'm sure John Gruden/Madden would be getting the same results with whose out there in 2 preseason games

You are fucking clueless

Indiana V2 08-20-2017 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21469)
Pagano doesn't suck. I'm sure John Gruden/Madden would be getting the same results with whose out there in 2 preseason games

You're either related to Pagano, or Jim Irsay, if you don't think Chuck sucks.

IndyNorm 08-20-2017 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21469)
Pagano doesn't suck. I'm sure John Gruden/Madden would be getting the same results with whose out there in 2 preseason games

The worst play call in NFL history begs to differ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtzpdH_uPM

GoBigBlue88 08-20-2017 09:33 AM

Pagano doesn't suck, guys. It's all the assistants he fired before him, the GM, and the hundreds of players that have come and gone that suck. Not Pagano!

Indiana V2 08-20-2017 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 21508)
Pagano doesn't suck, guys. It's all the assistants he fired before him, the GM, and the hundreds of players that have come and gone that suck. Not Pagano!

Just in case apballin doesn't realize it, this post is a heavy dose of sarcasm.

Hoopsdoc 08-20-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 21505)
The worst play call in NFL history begs to differ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtzpdH_uPM

Oh good lord. I hadn't rewatched that play a single time until just now. Just figured why do that to myself?

But holy hell-Pagano deserves to be blackballed for life for that moment alone. That was almost surreal in how comically inept it was.

This site needs a facepalm 🤦*♂️ and name it after that play.

Well shit, I guess I'll go slam my nutsack in the car door repeatedly now.


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