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Pez 09-28-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 29918)
...LGBQT, Tran-sexual, cross dressing...

That's redundant three times. Just saying.

GoBigBlue88 09-28-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 29973)
Oh yeah, that's me. I don't agree with being guilted into some injustice you believe in. If you're a straight white male in America and you don't agree with every liberal idea you're a racist. I am sure your boyfriend is proud of you for being a social warrior. In reality though you are just a useful idiot for the liberal agenda. You have any more labels for me other than that tired old standby of the left?

Never got why social warrior was a bad label. As if it imply social injustice is the preference (which it is for a lot of straight white men, I'm sure).

Also don't get why being called gay would be an insult, but whatever. As long as my theoretical boyfriend doesn't make America actively worse by willfully supporting Trump's America, I'm cool with it.

Lov2fish 09-28-2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 29982)
So I'm as liberal as they come and despite some of your hyperbolic language and assumption that there is such a thing as a liberal agenda, I agree with you to an extent. There are many liberals that do not have clear thinking on these matters and equate anything white and male to oppression of that which is not white and male.

That aside, one of my biggest frustrations with Trump is that he says his tax plan is so kind to the middle class, when one of the largest cornerstones of it is the repeal of the Estate Tax (now called the Death Tax by the GOP).

How can that possibly help the middle class, or how can it possibly help our country? Is the tax of assets bequeathed to others really any sort of barrier to economic growth?

The lowest tax rate is currently 10%, that will raise to 12%, how can people expect this to be any sort of economic stimulant. Not to mention that the majority of people paying that lowest tax rate are something other than white.

You're posing this as if I am a Trump supporter? I am not. I don't subscribe to the two party duopoly. They are one in the same. Zero distinction in difference. I'll personally be glad with this whole house of cards come crashing down and the thud of it is deafening. The constitution was written to keep shit like this from happening, but Americans became complacent and lazy. It was also designed to keep mob rule from control, I.E. current liberal politics. The word democracy does not appear anywhere in the bill of rights or constitution and the forefathers were very cautious to make sure it wasn't in there. To keep the government from voting themselves everything they wanted and reward the populace who voted for them.

We have been given our bread and circuses and we cheer.

I am saddened that one day the soft pussies of today will ruin it completely when they become the majority. It Trump doesn't tip us over the edge the next moron will. Even though I lean conservative, I mind my fucking business and have zero interest in the Republican party. They bailed on conservatives a long time ago. When they decided they wanted to legislate bedrooms, religion and marriage. And before the Republicans on here get all butt hurt. When was the last time a Republican president, congress or senate shrunk government? I'll wait.

Lov2fish 09-28-2017 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 30033)
Never got why social warrior was a bad label. As if it imply social injustice is the preference (which it is for a lot of straight white men, I'm sure).

Also don't get why being called gay would be an insult, but whatever. As long as my theoretical boyfriend doesn't make America actively worse by willfully supporting Trump's America, I'm cool with it.

Because others peoples issues are none of your business? Who asked or gave you the right to be the morality police? In what time in life were you granted the power to be judgmental of anyone who doesn't align with your philosophy?

I don't care if you're gay, lesbian or any other. I tossed it out there so as not to fall out of line with your judgement of me cause I called your candidate a cunt, which by the way she still is.

omahacolt 09-28-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 30033)
Never got why social warrior was a bad label. As if it imply social injustice is the preference (which it is for a lot of straight white men, I'm sure).

Also don't get why being called gay would be an insult, but whatever. As long as my theoretical boyfriend doesn't make America actively worse by willfully supporting Trump's America, I'm cool with it.

you and this post are super gay

Lov2fish 09-28-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 29999)
You sound triggered. Go fill up your tiki torch, snowflake.

Boy, get back in your mom's basement. You don't have what it takes to trigger me. Me calling you morons social warriors is as close as you will ever get to your name and warrior associated with each other. Dumb ass. You're about 3 IQ points from leaving the house with a helmet on. Oh shit, did I just make fun of mentally challenged? Yea, I did. Political correctness can fark off as well.

GoBigBlue88 09-28-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 30070)
you and this post are super gay

Thanks!

Brylok 09-28-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 30072)
Boy, get back in your mom's basement. You don't have what it takes to trigger me. Me calling you morons social warriors is as close as you will ever get to your name and warrior associated with each other. Dumb ass. You're about 3 IQ points from leaving the house with a helmet on. Oh shit, did I just make fun of mentally challenged? Yea, I did. Political correctness can fark off as well.

I already served in the military, troll. Did you? And before you lie, and after you've filled your tiki torch, go get your fucking shine box.

Lov2fish 09-29-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 30123)
I already served in the military, troll. Did you? And before you lie, and after you've filled your tiki torch, go get your fucking shine box.

Nope didn't serve. So that makes you somewhat superior? Did you serve under the don't ask don't tell program? You're still just a little bitch who lacks a set of nuts. Since you are neutered I hope you are at least house broken to so your mom don't get mad from pissing on the rug when you hear bumps in the night.

Pez 09-29-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 30033)
Never got why social warrior was a bad label. As if it imply social injustice is the preference (which it is for a lot of straight white men, I'm sure).

Also don't get why being called gay would be an insult, but whatever. As long as my theoretical boyfriend doesn't make America actively worse by willfully supporting Trump's America, I'm cool with it.


It's not a bad label when it's a legitimate. When it's someone that feels compelled enough to express their very strong sense of social justice on facebook but doesnt know the name of any of their congressmen it takes on a certain stigma.

Not calling anyone out, except maybe the daily slacktivists....

Pez 09-29-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 30056)
...You're posing this as if I am a Trump supporter? I am not. I don't subscribe to the two party duopoly. They are one in the same. Zero distinction in difference....

To be honest I quoted you directly, but my post was not trying to assume you supported anyone in particular. I was trying to change the subject by asking some generic questions about the facts in our president's tax plan and thereby lead the thread toward a more productive discussion among thinking people.

I agree with your point that there is no longer any difference between the parties, with the exception of a color and a mascot. Democrats want to have control, Republicans want to have control and will become chameleons in order to do so. Life begins at conception but capital punishment is ok. Abortion is a right, but capital punishment is not...

At the end of the day all these fuckers want is our money. At least Trump doesn't hide it. I'm pretty sure that's the Only positive thing I have ever said about him.

I identify as a liberal and not a democrat, though to be honest I'm conservative on some issues (gun control, etc).

Lov2fish 09-29-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 30231)
To be honest I quoted you directly, but my post was not trying to assume you supported anyone in particular. I was trying to change the subject by asking some generic questions about the facts in our president's tax plan and thereby lead the thread toward a more productive discussion among thinking people.

I agree with your point that there is no longer any difference between the parties, with the exception of a color and a mascot. Democrats want to have control, Republicans want to have control and will become chameleons in order to do so. Life begins at conception but capital punishment is ok. Abortion is a right, but capital punishment is not...

At the end of the day all these fuckers want is our money. At least Trump doesn't hide it. I'm pretty sure that's the Only positive thing I have ever said about him.

I identify as a liberal and not a democrat, though to be honest I'm conservative on some issues (gun control, etc).

When it comes to taxes I am pretty libertarian, taxation is theft. We had roads, bridges, libraries, firemen and policemen before the IRS and the beginning of the giant albatross hanging around our neck. I don't have a lot nice to say about any of them. I am a constitutionality kinda guy. Both sides cherry pick the parts they wanna champion, or cuss when it prevents them their agenda. If it doesn't effect my everyday life, fuck it. If it becomes detrimental to my life and you can't fix it, kill it.

I believe in closed borders, you want to come here and enjoy the American dream it should be hard. It should be damned hard.

A lot of my philosophy falls under the Libertarian flag, but there also a few that nowhere close represents my thinking. Their nap is shit. I 100% condone violence to settle some issues. When confronted with aggression my philosophy is meet it head on with an unspeakable evil that would make the devil quiver in disgust.

I am not that much different than you, or any republicans. I just have a different approach. Life is way to short for sugarcoating anything. Stand up for what you believe in, and be prepared to kill or die for it. Compromise is surrender, or consent. I come from a military family. Father was a sniper in Korea, grandfather was a firearms instructor in the Navy. My oldest brother was Navy and my little brother a Marine. I tried to join the Marines, but I had 5 knee surgeries by time I graduated high school and failed all 3 physicals.

I know some on here think I am asshole, it's fine I won't lose sleep over it. I just refuse to change for sake of change, and I won't be politically correct to keep from hurting someones feelz. Just a regular ole guy who refuses to be bullied into some cause just because it's the latest miscarriage of justice in a never ending line of injustice.

testcase448 10-02-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 2218)
I've been putting it this way: I may have disagreed with policies of past presidents (Obama's furthering of Patriot Act, Bush's war agenda / Patriot Act birthing etc.) but I always viewed these presidents as legitimate presidents, respected them for it, and would gladly shake their hand if I ever met them.

I don't view Donald Trump as presidential or representative of America in the slightest. I would not shake his hand.

I'd spit in obozo's face...

and Carter

GoBigBlue88 12-13-2017 07:51 AM

Good call endorsing the pedophile, Trump. That went well.

Racehorse 12-13-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 45985)
Good call endorsing the pedophile, Trump. That went well.

To say this is about Trump is ludicrous. Both sides of the aisle have creepy douchebags in office and running for office. This is about the voters rejecting a loser who preyed on girls. It is good that Moore lost.

Pez 12-13-2017 08:32 AM

I don't think it's ludicrous at all. Trump and the GOP endorsed a man who is facing multiple credible accusations of pedophilia. After saying that he knew one of these girls and signed her highschool yearbook, he stated that he did not know any of these women. A man who said publicly that the last time America was "Great" was when we had slavery:

“I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction,” Moore said

Trump decided to make multiple statements that reflect an opinion that a seat in congress going to a democrat is more abhorrent than a pedophile longing for a return to the antebellum era.

GoBigBlue88 12-13-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 45988)
To say this is about Trump is ludicrous. Both sides of the aisle have creepy douchebags in office and running for office. This is about the voters rejecting a loser who preyed on girls. It is good that Moore lost.

1. Moore is a pedophile

2. Trump endorsed Moore

What part of that is ludicrous?

Mr. Session 12-13-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 45988)
To say this is about Trump is ludicrous. Both sides of the aisle have creepy douchebags in office and running for office. This is about the voters rejecting a loser who preyed on girls. It is good that Moore lost.

Are you asshurt or something?

FatDT 12-13-2017 04:46 PM

"Go get 'em, Roy."

- Donald Trump in a phone call to Roy Moore, 12/4/2017

Racehorse 12-13-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 45995)
Are you asshurt or something?

Nope. I told a co-worker who supported Moore that it would be better if he lost.

omahacolt 12-15-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 45988)
To say this is about Trump is ludicrous. Both sides of the aisle have creepy douchebags in office and running for office. This is about the voters rejecting a loser who preyed on girls. It is good that Moore lost.

I still am surprised you are such a diehard trumper.

how is he not just an embarrassment to you

Puck 12-17-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 46695)
I still am surprised you are such a diehard trumper.

how is he not just an embarrassment to you

EASY........Because the alternative was Hilary

Racehorse 12-17-2017 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 46695)
I still am surprised you are such a diehard trumper.

how is he not just an embarrassment to you

Oh, I am no diehard trumper. He was my fifth or sixth choice among the candidates.

FatDT 12-18-2017 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 46883)
EASY........Because the alternative was Hilary

Clinton's dead and shriveled left ovary would've been 10x the president that Trump is. And I don't even like or support her.

omahacolt 12-18-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 46883)
EASY........Because the alternative was Hilary

any alternative was better

Puck 12-18-2017 08:52 PM

Apparently not

natagu23 12-29-2017 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 31288)
I'd spit in obozo's face...

and Carter

Really?

You'd spit in Carter's face? C'mon man.

Disagree politically....thats your right, but to spit in the face of a former navy lieutenant because he has a (D) behind his name is pretty low. You can ask many conservatives that were alive when he was the governor of Georgia and President that would testify on behalf of his high moral character.

I hate George W. Bush because he misled this nation into war under false pretenses and created the instability that led to ISIS, but I wouldnt spit in the guy's face.

Racehorse 12-29-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 48700)
Really?

You'd spit in Carter's face? C'mon man.

Disagree politically....thats your right, but to spit in the face of a former navy lieutenant because he has a (D) behind his name is pretty low. You can ask many conservatives that were alive when he was the governor of Georgia and President that would testify on behalf of his high moral character.

I hate George W. Bush because he misled this nation into war under false pretenses and created the instability that led to ISIS, but I wouldnt spit in the guy's face.

Yeah, Carter was a good man, even if he was inept as POTUS. His Habitat for Humanity legacy will live on forever.

Pez 01-09-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 48717)
Yeah, Carter was a good man, even if he was inept as POTUS. His Habitat for Humanity legacy will live on forever.

Here's a fun read about Carter asking Trump if he could help with DPRK:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/o...p-posting.html


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