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Dam8610 03-20-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 113936)
The reason I said -1.0 is that Metcalf hasn't even had good college production. AJ Brown was the better WR on his team.

Also Metcalfs lackluster 3-cone shows that his change of direction ability will not be adequate enough to et him open in the NFL.

He doesn't need COD. His size and speed are sufficient.

YDFL Commish 03-20-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 113947)
He doesn't need COD. His size and speed are sufficient.

If you believe that, then you sir are a fool.

Chromeburn 03-20-2019 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 113810)
Calvin Johnson didn't run a 3 cone for this exact reason. He also ran slants, posts, curls, and gos about 75% of the time in his career and was obviously very productive doing that. I trust that Reich would use Metcalf in the exact same manner.

Check out this video, Brett Kollmann explains it really well.

I like my receivers to be able to run a whole route tree. He catches the ball well and in stride. Calvin Johnson has a huge catch radius though, you could throw it high to him even if he was covered. Did he have his pro day yet?

Chromeburn 03-20-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113853)
I'm resigned to the Colts "reaching" for a Rd2 talent on defense at 26. Some draft analysts are saying there's really only about 20 1st round grades this year. Maybe someone falls, but I'm just assuming it won't happen.

That’s pretty typical. Most years there are only 10-20 guys that only have a high grade. Heard Polian talk about it once.

Dam8610 03-20-2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 113954)
If you believe that, then you sir are a fool.

Find a 3 cone time for this guy. He did pretty well.

Dam8610 03-20-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 113955)
I like my receivers to be able to run a whole route tree. He catches the ball well and in stride. Calvin Johnson has a huge catch radius though, you could throw it high to him even if he was covered. Did he have his pro day yet?

Calvin Johnson: 6'5" 237 4.35 40 no 3 cone time
Demaryius Thomas: 6'3" 229 4.38 40 no 3 cone time
D.K. Metcalf: 6'3" 228 4.33 40 7.38 3 cone

I think Johnson and Thomas would've had poor 3 cone times, they were just smart enough to not run the drill. That's not their game. Their game is being big, fast, hard to bring down, and using those elements to produce.

rcubed 03-20-2019 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 113960)
Calvin Johnson: 6'5" 237 4.35 40 no 3 cone time
Demaryius Thomas: 6'3" 229 4.38 40 no 3 cone time
D.K. Metcalf: 6'3" 228 4.33 40 7.38 3 cone

I think Johnson and Thomas would've had poor 3 cone times, they were just smart enough to not run the drill. That's not their game. Their game is being big, fast, hard to bring down, and using those elements to produce.

You mean they were not perfect at everything and played to their strengths??? Whaaaaat!?!?

FatDT 03-20-2019 09:42 PM

People complained about Bradley Chubb’s 3 cone last year and he kicked ass as a rookie.

Indiana V2 03-20-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 113954)
If you believe that, then you sir are a fool.

I thought that was already proven?

YDFL Commish 03-20-2019 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 113963)
People complained about Bradley Chubb’s 3 cone last year and he kicked ass as a rookie.

Apples and oranges...DE 3-cone does not pertain to a WR 3-cone. The most important measurable for an edge rusher is his 10-yard split...and even this can be subjective, when you watch his tape, you want to be sure that they match.


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