I wish I had your optimism. Jones was playing well last year, that’s true, but he was playing better than he ever had before. And it was 7 years of mediocre play. Odds are he wasn’t going to continue to play that well.

Then he got hurt. Well, guess what, that’s what he does. He’s only ever finished one complete season healthy. That’s just who he is.

I just feel like we’re headed for another mediocre season.

Olubi signed with the Raiders.

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Jones played 6 years for the Giants, not 7.

He had 5 mediocre seasons, and 1 season in which he got comeback player of the year in 2022.

The Giants were bad for 2 seasons before Jones got there when Eli Manning was their quarterback (2018 and 2019), and they were bad after he left when rookie Jaxson Dart was their quarterback (2025.) Their combined record in the 3 seasons combined before and after Daniel Jones was 12-37.


Jones had 1 good season and 5 mediocre seasons playing for bad Giants teams ...... he's not an elite quarterback, but he very well may be a Jim Plunkett-type of player who needs a good team around him in order to rise above the level mediocrity, as Plunkett did when he wound up with the Raiders after lingering for 7 seasons with bad Patriots and 49ers teams.

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I would say so, yeah. That's kind of my main point - people act like we're just entitled to keep our same roster from one year to the next. We're not. And signing those free agents is ultimately no less an achievement than signing guys from other teams.


I don't know that I'm overly optimistic. I'm just not the morbid kid from Kingergarten Cop who tells Arnold that his headache is probably a tumor. That kid exists in abundance online.

And I fully realize the players we've lost and the challenge of replenishing and upgraded. I just see the rationale behind the moves. Doesn't mean it's a slam dunk - it's obviously still a risk, but that goes without saying.

Chaos. Has there been a great player since Reggie White who has escaped their team in their prime? With the tools that modern GMs have at their disposal that is a rarity now. I really cannot give any serious props for that. We have been a middling team for 9 years. I fail to see how just keeping the same team intact gets us anywhere but middling. I actually think if we were having this conversation in person we would find a lot of common ground

We face no challenges that are unique. The measure of the front office is have they improved the roster by a measurable amount from the year before. I recognize this is quite a difficult task when you have a talented bunch that perform well and payoff in wins. Your players become more coveted and therefore more expensive. However, that can’t be said for a middle of the pack team that lacks talent. Every year a full quarter of the league will play in the divisional round. I’m not including the wild card round because some may argue that one and done does not qualify as success. How long has it been since we’ve played and won a divisional round game? I don’t care to even look because this team has been mired in mediocrity for so long that a wild card appearance would probably garner a ticker tape parade. The fact is teams build good rosters that are sustainable for reasonable lengths of time. We make bullshit excuses for this team and I have no idea why. Maybe since the Irsays don’t promote accountability we feel it’s illogical for anyone to. I don’t have much that would qualify me to do their job. But sometimes it’s what you don’t have that qualifies you. Those running the show on W 56th st. have a condition known as willful blindness. They seeming refuse to watch and learn what does and doesn’t work. The body of evidence speaks for itself. We’ve found success before and can do it again but it will require sound judgement and a willingness to adjust. My hope right now is that we somehow catch lightning in a bottle and we catch all the breaks for a year. I’d be happy to cheer for the blind squirrel at this point but I also hope that I never become satisfied with an inferior product.

To say that those who don't have torches and pitchforks out are happy with the records of the past few years. We are not. However, we do not see it as much of a doom and gloom situation like some do on here and other fan sites.

This makes sense to me as one of those doom and gloom people. I’m sick of being on this carousel as I’m sure everyone is

Honest question - you don’t see it as doom and gloom because you believe in what they have done and are doing? Or because you just always have a “this is our year” mentality and rarely criticize the team? I’m not saying that as a knock to that style of fandom. I’m just honestly trying to understand the continued Ballard support by some.