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ChaosTheory 12-24-2023 04:30 PM

Wait til 9 mins left to shake things up for Heineken.

nate505 12-24-2023 04:33 PM

Minshew is getting like 2 seconds to throw out there.

nate505 12-24-2023 04:33 PM

Now that's probably game, sigh.

Dewey 5 12-24-2023 04:34 PM

Ballgame

Thorgrim 12-24-2023 04:34 PM

Well


Yep

YDFL Commish 12-24-2023 04:35 PM

This is gonna take a miracle.

dwilli57 12-24-2023 04:35 PM

Yup. Time to go watch red zone.

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Thorgrim 12-24-2023 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 287918)
This is gonna take a miracle.

Certainly is gonna take a turnover or two

Dam8610 12-24-2023 04:36 PM

Such a Jekyll and Hyde team.

BCN#1 12-24-2023 04:38 PM

Well I look at it as a positive move either way given we have beaten last year´s record and flirted with the playoffs in general. The Dirty Birds came to play and save their coaches job most likely.

nate505 12-24-2023 04:38 PM

Looks like the Colts will be in a massive logjam for that last playoff spot.

Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Texans, and most likely the Broncos will all have an 8-7 record after today.

They have winnable games left against the Raiders and Texans, and have an ok shot at 10-7, but hell, every game is a loseable game for them as well.

njcoltfan 12-24-2023 04:41 PM

No fire, seems like they took Atlanta for granted, OL sucked today and so did the play calling !! Where was Sermon, Goodson and Montgomery ??? Quoting a ex coach.............PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS !!!!!!!

nate505 12-24-2023 04:42 PM

Amazing, it's somehow still a two possession game.

Dewey 5 12-24-2023 04:44 PM

Lot of talk this past week about Steichen COY Colts this Colts that. It's like this team heard all of that & actually believed they were good. They're not.

Racehorse 12-24-2023 04:47 PM

Offsides not called

ChaosTheory 12-24-2023 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 287934)
Offsides not called

And then you can apparently dive tackle the WRs legs if you're "playing the ball."

But Speed isn't allowed to tackle the ball carrier.

nate505 12-24-2023 04:52 PM

Such an uninspired game. It's like they just went to show up because they were contractually obligated to.

The Falcons on the other hand played inspired football today.

Dewey 5 12-24-2023 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 287923)
Looks like the Colts will be in a massive logjam for that last playoff spot.

Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Texans, and most likely the Broncos will all have an 8-7 record after today.

They have winnable games left against the Raiders and Texans, and have an ok shot at 10-7, but hell, every game is a loseable game for them as well.

Playoffs?

njcoltfan 12-24-2023 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 287923)
Looks like the Colts will be in a massive logjam for that last playoff spot.

Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Texans, and most likely the Broncos will all have an 8-7 record after today.

They have winnable games left against the Raiders and Texans, and have an ok shot at 10-7, but hell, every game is a loseable game for them as well.

They will be lucky if they're competitive, Colts are never, never, ready to play!! Win and they had a 99.9 chance to make the playoffs, they come out and shit the bed !!! Poor coaching, Bradley needs to go.

nate505 12-24-2023 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 287937)
Playoffs?

Yeah, they're going to be tied for the last spot record wise with five other teams.

Thorgrim 12-24-2023 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 287938)
They will be lucky if they're competitive, Colts are never, never, ready to play!! Win and they had a 99.9 chance to make the playoffs, they come out and shit the bed !!! Poor coaching, Bradley needs to go.

Considering what was on the line this is easily their worst game of the season.

Colts And Orioles 12-24-2023 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 287902)
o


In Andrew Luck's rookie season in 2012, the Colts played badly for most of the game against the Lions ...... but they stole it with 2 late TD's, the last of which was on the final play of the game.

That's what I'm hoping for here ...... not necessarily expecting ...... but hoping.

o

o


Next time, just shut up and watch the game.

o

Colts And Orioles 12-24-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 287707)
o


The Colts are 15-2 all-time vs. the Falcons.


https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl...amvsteam?opp=2

o

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15-3, now.

Last week, the Colts ended their Steelers nightmare.

This week, the Falcons ended their Colts nightmare.

o

njcoltfan 12-24-2023 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 287923)
Looks like the Colts will be in a massive logjam for that last playoff spot.

Colts, Steelers, Bengals, Texans, and most likely the Broncos will all have an 8-7 record after today.

They have winnable games left against the Raiders and Texans, and have an ok shot at 10-7, but hell, every game is a loseable game for them as well.

I don't know why people think this is a playoff team. Its not !!

Spike 12-24-2023 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 287943)
I don't know why people think this is a playoff team. Its not !!

I agree.

Lov2fish 12-24-2023 06:43 PM

I have said for weeks this team is fools gold. I know the record is what it is, but we are not as good as it reflects! We have talent in skilled positions, but are completely lacking talent and or depth in important skill positions.

DragonTails 12-24-2023 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 287972)
I have said for weeks this team is fools gold. I know the record is what it is, but we are not as good as it reflects! We have talent in skilled positions, but are completely lacking talent and or depth in important skill positions.

The last team to get in is going to be fools gold...so why not Indy.

Get some of these players some payoff experience so maybe next year the team is not a dear-in-headlights if they make it.

Dam8610 12-25-2023 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 287972)
I have said for weeks this team is fools gold. I know the record is what it is, but we are not as good as it reflects! We have talent in skilled positions, but are completely lacking talent and or depth in important skill positions.

You've got the what right but the why wrong. This team is fool's gold because it's what the Colts have had for the past several seasons: a very talented roster helmed by a very flawed QB. This team will only go as far as Gardner Minshew's hot hand will take it. When he goes cold and starts airmailing passes like we saw yesterday, well, you'll get results like yesterday. Could the Colts use some depth at receiver and interior OL? Sure, but overall, this is one of the deeper rosters in the league. The good news on this is if Richardson is the real deal and can stay healthy, this team can very quickly shift into being legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

Lov2fish 12-25-2023 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 288025)
You've got the what right but the why wrong. This team is fool's gold because it's what the Colts have had for the past several seasons: a very talented roster helmed by a very flawed QB. This team will only go as far as Gardner Minshew's hot hand will take it. When he goes cold and starts airmailing passes like we saw yesterday, well, you'll get results like yesterday. Could the Colts use some depth at receiver and interior OL? Sure, but overall, this is one of the deeper rosters in the league. The good news on this is if Richardson is the real deal and can stay healthy, this team can very quickly shift into being legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

Your eyes are lying to you again. Our pass rush is a mirage and our o-line is still subpar. Our backend is suspect. Yes I know a lot of young players getting baptism under fire, but if they don't pan out its back to square one. No depth at any of the key positions. Pitman is a beast, but he doesn't have that break away speed. We still need a receiver to take the top off the defense. I think Richardson is a sponge in the tape rooms and will be much ahead of schedule next year. If he is not protected and nobody to throw deep to, it is all for naught.

On a side note. Looks like you were right about CJ. I don't think he is elite, but is he is much above average and will win a lot of games and a major pain in the ass for us for the next decade barring any career ending injuries.

Racehorse 12-25-2023 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 288033)
Your eyes are lying to you again. Our pass rush is a mirage and our o-line is still subpar. Our backend is suspect. Yes I know a lot of young players getting baptism under fire, but if they don't pan out its back to square one. No depth at any of the key positions. Pitman is a beast, but he doesn't have that break away speed. We still need a receiver to take the top off the defense. I think Richardson is a sponge in the tape rooms and will be much ahead of schedule next year. If he is not protected and nobody to throw deep to, it is all for naught.

On a side note. Looks like you were right about CJ. I don't think he is elite, but is he is much above average and will win a lot of games and a major pain in the ass for us for the next decade barring any career ending injuries.

I think the pass rush is a victim of Bradley only sending the front four on 955 of the plays. Atlanta made it their goal to send enough pressure to stop Taylor, and pressure Minshew, and it worked. For some reason, we never try that. Well, we did try it one game, and it went very well. I can't remember the opponent, but it worked. Then, we stopped doing it, for some reason.

Dewey 5 12-25-2023 04:43 PM

We’re not beating the Raiders next week. Their defense is going to destroy the Colts OL

Colts And Orioles 12-25-2023 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 288038)



We’re not beating the Raiders next week. Their defense is going to destroy the Colts' OL.




o


It's the Colts ....... they have almost always done the unexpected since the retirement of Andrew Luck ...... this season alone they beat one of the best teams in the NFL (the Ravens), they beat another team for the first time since the Herbert Hoover administration (the Steelers), and they lost to mediocre teams such as the Saints and the Falcons.

o

apballin 12-25-2023 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 288039)
o


It's the Colts ....... they have almost always done the unexpected since the retirement of Andrew Luck ...... this season alone they beat one of the best teams in the NFL (the Ravens), they beat another team for the first time since the Herbert Hoover administration (the Steelers), and they lost to mediocre teams such as the Saints and the Falcons.

o

Yea push around and dominate the Ravens and Steelers yet get bullied and punked by the bengals and falcons

albany ed 12-26-2023 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 287943)
I don't know why people think this is a playoff team. Its not !!

It is! They won't go far in the playoffs, but they will be a playoff team.

njcoltfan 12-26-2023 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 288072)
It is! They won't go far in the playoffs, but they will be a playoff team.

I don't think so, I think the Raiders are gonna take them behind the woodshed and give them a good old fashioned ass kickin !! I think their DL is gonna be all over Minshew like white on rice, and he'll have the happiest feet in Indiana ! Hopefully, I'm wrong.

IndyNorm 12-26-2023 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 288025)
You've got the what right but the why wrong. This team is fool's gold because it's what the Colts have had for the past several seasons: a very talented roster helmed by a very flawed QB. This team will only go as far as Gardner Minshew's hot hand will take it. When he goes cold and starts airmailing passes like we saw yesterday, well, you'll get results like yesterday. Could the Colts use some depth at receiver and interior OL? Sure, but overall, this is one of the deeper rosters in the league. The good news on this is if Richardson is the real deal and can stay healthy, this team can very quickly shift into being legitimate Super Bowl contenders.

Don’t disagree with your assessment of Minshew, but you’re really understating how bad the D and OL were on Sunday and in other losses this year.

YDFL Commish 12-26-2023 10:54 AM

We are a perfect example of a inconsistent team. As are all of the other 8-7 and 7-8 teams.

This team will not become a consistent winning team unless we get QB play that will hide our flaws or every other unit on the team shows incremental improvement.

Of course that can't possibly happen until 2024.

Dam8610 12-26-2023 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 288033)
Your eyes are lying to you again. Our pass rush is a mirage and our o-line is still subpar. Our backend is suspect. Yes I know a lot of young players getting baptism under fire, but if they don't pan out its back to square one. No depth at any of the key positions. Pitman is a beast, but he doesn't have that break away speed. We still need a receiver to take the top off the defense. I think Richardson is a sponge in the tape rooms and will be much ahead of schedule next year. If he is not protected and nobody to throw deep to, it is all for naught.

On a side note. Looks like you were right about CJ. I don't think he is elite, but is he is much above average and will win a lot of games and a major pain in the ass for us for the next decade barring any career ending injuries.

Dayo is getting real pressure both from the edge and interior, Ebukam is doing well from the edge, and of course Buckner is Buckner. I wouldn't be upset if the Colts spent their 1 this year on a pass rusher, but given that it will be in the back half of the first round, the value likely won't be there. The backend of the defense fell off quite a bit when Julian Blackmon left the game, which shows two things: 1) Blackmon should be the offseason priority right after Pittman and 2) the Colts might be wise to invest high round draft capital into one of those versatile hybrid nickel/safety type defenders, as Moore and Blackmon are the only players that the Colts have for that type of role. They may have found their boundary CBs in Brents and Jones, but they need more defenders that can handle TEs and receiving RBs. Downs, Pierce, and Pittman are a quality top 3 for a receiver room. Like I said, depth is probably needed there, but not top end talent. The possession guy (Pittman), deep threat (Pierce) and slot guy (Downs) are all already there.

As for Stroud, guys who break all the rookie QB records tend to go on to have good careers. This is why I wanted to trade up to 1. Hopefully Richardson can come back and be as good or better.

Dam8610 12-26-2023 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 288083)
Don’t disagree with your assessment of Minshew, but you’re really understating how bad the D and OL were on Sunday and in other losses this year.

The defense was especially bad after Blackmon left yesterday. I don't think he's going to miss the rest of the season. He is one of the key players in this defense. Regarding the OL, they need to get Freeland some help against top tier pass rushers, but he's been better than what you'd expect from a 4th round rookie and looks like at least a good swing tackle going forward. Beyond that, I think IOL depth is one of the biggest needs this team has.


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