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CletusPyle 01-02-2022 11:28 PM

I think some of you are being way too hard on Wentz...I think the guy is a pretty good fit for the Colts! He is a competitor, tough as nails, strong, and at times shows a lot of skill at his position. He had a bad game today, reverted back to some of his bonehead reckless plays and held the ball way too long at times!

I also didn't like some of the play calling in this game down the stretch, I hated the passes to Hines on that last drive. He is still a young guy, he is going to get better! And as much as I hate to say it, because he is one of my favorite players, Kenny Moore did not have a great game today either!

rcubed 01-02-2022 11:45 PM

I am tired of the high throws. Two weeks in a row with too many of them. Last week he pulled it out. Not so much this week.

ChoppedWood 01-02-2022 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 219060)
I think some of you are being way too hard on Wentz...I think the guy is a pretty good fit for the Colts! He is a competitor, tough as nails, strong, and at times shows a lot of skill at his position. He had a bad game today, reverted back to some of his bonehead reckless plays and held the ball way too long at times!

I also didn't like some of the play calling in this game down the stretch, I hated the passes to Hines on that last drive. He is still a young guy, he is going to get better! And as much as I hate to say it, because he is one of my favorite players, Kenny Moore did not have a great game today either!

Yep we got back to Frank being crafty Frank today- like the jet dive to Jackson on 3rd down. It generally never works, but hey, in his mind I bet he thinks he is really getting over on them and when he goes home he high fives himself for such plays.

Lov2fish 01-03-2022 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 219060)
I think some of you are being way too hard on Wentz...I think the guy is a pretty good fit for the Colts! He is a competitor, tough as nails, strong, and at times shows a lot of skill at his position. He had a bad game today, reverted back to some of his bonehead reckless plays and held the ball way too long at times!

I also didn't like some of the play calling in this game down the stretch, I hated the passes to Hines on that last drive. He is still a young guy, he is going to get better! And as much as I hate to say it, because he is one of my favorite players, Kenny Moore did not have a great game today either!

He has all the physical tools to be an exceptional QB. The part between his ears are his biggest obstacle and I am not sure anyone is going to coach that out of him. The high throws and inability to hit a receiver in stride is not something that just came about today. It has been an issue all year, it just gets magnified in the losses, mainly cause the glaring problem in the losses are him.

bigalbert 01-03-2022 12:26 AM

What would it take to get Minshew in here as a backup. Might be the best backup in the league


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CletusPyle 01-03-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 219064)
He has all the physical tools to be an exceptional QB. The part between his ears are his biggest obstacle and I am not sure anyone is going to coach that out of him. The high throws and inability to hit a receiver in stride is not something that just came about today. It has been an issue all year, it just gets magnified in the losses, mainly cause the glaring problem in the losses are him.

And yet the throw he made to Patmon in the back of the endzone was as good and accurate of a pass as I've ever seen. Not only hit him in stride, but was perfectly placed! I still contend that he is young enough that many of his bad decisions/habits can be "coached out of him"....maybe he needs a better QB coach?

I could be wrong, but I don't see him going anywhere, any time soon! He is still much better than any QB we could have drafted this year, and with our D, which is only going to get better, and Jonathan, he doesn't have to be Peyton Manning for this team to win a championship! Just my two cents....

MeSayDayo 01-03-2022 09:48 AM

This is the way I see it..

Sure, we could have had Minshew, but not at the rate that the Eagles paid to get him, since we are a division rival and all. Jax would have tried to fleece us and he really is just a game managing type that has already shown his limitations.

We could have went after Stafford hard and mortgaged our future to do so...that decision in hindsight might have given us *maybe* one Lombardi with the time Stafford has left. We would be rebuilding again in 4 years (with LA having all of our draft picks) and that plan would have required us to bring in more receiving talent as well.

Could have went Winston, Darnold, Dalton. I think Winston would have given us very much the same as what Carson has, Dalton and Foles would have given us the same as Minshew- game management but no ability to blow the top off and will our team to a win, which Carson at least has shown a propensity to do. It might be the ugliest turnover in the world, which we have seen ad-nauseum with Wentz this season....or it results in a TD, which we saw to Pittman vs SF and TY yesterday. Prayer balls...and Carson is a Jesus man after all.

And that leaves the rookie class. Lawrence has been historically bad, Lance has barely seen the field and hasn't looked great when he has, and Fields has been bad, lets not sugarcoat it. Zach Wilson much of the same.
As for the Qb's that we may not have had to trade the farm to acquire, Mac Jones and Mills from Houston have both outperformed expectations but do YOU really want either of them RIGHT NOW for the Colts over Wentz?

Maybe, but its close.

We don't have the capital to go get a young stud QB anyways, but I think we absolutely have to replace Wentz by the time his contract expires. That gives us another season of building around him/coaching him and if he exceeds expectations great, but I am not betting on it after year 6 in the league. He actually profiles as the perfect backup QB if not for the cost.

omahacolt 01-03-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 219047)
No sense asking you

just ask your mom if you want to see mine

Chromeburn 01-03-2022 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 219079)
This is the way I see it..

Sure, we could have had Minshew, but not at the rate that the Eagles paid to get him, since we are a division rival and all. Jax would have tried to fleece us and he really is just a game managing type that has already shown his limitations.

We could have went after Stafford hard and mortgaged our future to do so...that decision in hindsight might have given us *maybe* one Lombardi with the time Stafford has left. We would be rebuilding again in 4 years (with LA having all of our draft picks) and that plan would have required us to bring in more receiving talent as well.

Could have went Winston, Darnold, Dalton. I think Winston would have given us very much the same as what Carson has, Dalton and Foles would have given us the same as Minshew- game management but no ability to blow the top off and will our team to a win, which Carson at least has shown a propensity to do. It might be the ugliest turnover in the world, which we have seen ad-nauseum with Wentz this season....or it results in a TD, which we saw to Pittman vs SF and TY yesterday. Prayer balls...and Carson is a Jesus man after all.

And that leaves the rookie class. Lawrence has been historically bad, Lance has barely seen the field and hasn't looked great when he has, and Fields has been bad, lets not sugarcoat it. Zach Wilson much of the same.
As for the Qb's that we may not have had to trade the farm to acquire, Mac Jones and Mills from Houston have both outperformed expectations but do YOU really want either of them RIGHT NOW for the Colts over Wentz?

Maybe, but its close.

We don't have the capital to go get a young stud QB anyways, but I think we absolutely have to replace Wentz by the time his contract expires. That gives us another season of building around him/coaching him and if he exceeds expectations great, but I am not betting on it after year 6 in the league. He actually profiles as the perfect backup QB if not for the cost.

A couple people wanted to draft Mac Jones, I was one of them. Before we traded for Wentz. We are stuck with Wentz for right now. He has to improve or we will have another wasted season.

Really, you don't know how some of these other QB's would perform on this team. A solid defense and dominant running game is picture perfect for an incoming QB. But Wentz can't even beat single-man coverage. If he doesn't improve it will be a short playoff trip.

Lov2fish 01-03-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 219075)
And yet the throw he made to Patmon in the back of the endzone was as good and accurate of a pass as I've ever seen. Not only hit him in stride, but was perfectly placed! I still contend that he is young enough that many of his bad decisions/habits can be "coached out of him"....maybe he needs a better QB coach?

I could be wrong, but I don't see him going anywhere, any time soon! He is still much better than any QB we could have drafted this year, and with our D, which is only going to get better, and Jonathan, he doesn't have to be Peyton Manning for this team to win a championship! Just my two cents....

Its the part about him having every tangible to be an exceptional QB. He will hit a throw like that, but they are rarer than they should be. To be above average in this league you need consistency. He doesn't have it. He has a beast of a warrior mentality. No questioning his toughness, but we need more than that from him to take the next step.

I have been a fan since before they got to Indy. I will always be a loyal Colt fan. I won't however see everything through blue glasses. I am realistic and this team needs help for a truly consistent playoff run every year. Catching lightening in a bottle will only get ya so far.


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