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VeveJones007 03-11-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 112318)
yeah those numbers are a bit bonkers. i kinda assumed we would not spend the money on collins but was hoping his deal would not drive up the prices on other safeties. guess we will see...

Vaccaro just went from a $1.5MM 1 year deal to 4/$26MM. The market is robust for safeties. Maybe Amos comes in closer to what we thought for Collins (5/$60MM/$30MM), or maybe he gets even more.

smitty46953 03-11-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 112328)
If a safety with weak pass coverage skills can get this kind of money, I think Bell may get a ton from the Jets.

Yep, I agree

#SpendThat$$$ :cool:

Chromeburn 03-11-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 112328)
If a safety with weak pass coverage skills can get this kind of money, I think Bell may get a ton from the Jets.

I wonder what Earl Thomas is thinking. He may try to surpass that, but he won't get the same length in his contract.

I think we are going after Smith and maybe Williams. I don't know if we put that amount in safety. Might just resign Geathers and draft a guy to take over in a year or two. Maybe faster if Geathers keeps getting hurt.

VeveJones007 03-12-2019 01:29 AM

It’s behind a paywall, but Holder says the Colts were involved with Collins until the price tag got outrageous.

1965southpaw 03-13-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 112529)
It’s behind a paywall, but Holder says the Colts were involved with Collins until the price tag got outrageous.

I just heard Holder on JMV. He said his sources tell him that Ballard did make an offer to Collins and it was significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for. He also said they were involved in the Amos market. Again, Ballard doing what he said he'd do.....assign a value and stay disciplined.

VeveJones007 03-13-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 113059)
I just heard Holder on JMV. He said his sources tell him that Ballard did make an offer to Collins and it was significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for. He also said they were involved in the Amos market. Again, Ballard doing what he said he'd do.....assign a value and stay disciplined.

I'd be willing to bet all other offers to Collins were "significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for." That contract is stupid money.

JAFF 03-13-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 113059)
I just heard Holder on JMV. He said his sources tell him that Ballard did make an offer to Collins and it was significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for. He also said they were involved in the Amos market. Again, Ballard doing what he said he'd do.....assign a value and stay disciplined.

The Redskins have sucked for as long as Synder has been their owner. He throws money around and hasn't sniffed more than .500 in his tenure. If the Skins are outspending anyone else, it's a bad deal

Luck4Reich 03-13-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113063)
I'd be willing to bet all other offers to Collins were "significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for." That contract is stupid money.

Yet Redskins will still suck ass...

You go there to make money.. not win

VeveJones007 03-13-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 113066)
Yet Redskins will still suck ass...

You go there to make money.. not win

And I don't hold that against Collins one bit. He probably got $20MM more than any other offer. I wouldn't be able to look my wife in the eye if I passed up that kind of financial opportunity.

Spike 03-13-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113063)
I'd be willing to bet all other offers to Collins were "significantly lower than what the Redskins signed him for." That contract is stupid money.

I'll say it again, Snyder and Allen are fucking dumb asses.

Chromeburn 03-14-2019 12:27 AM

What really pisses me off about the whole thing is we could have drafted the guy. We had a need and he fit great. Fans wanted him, media was picking him in mocks. Everything seemed to align. Then big sweaty takes a receiver. I’m sure he would have been resigned and not hit the market. Sucks.

Luck4Reich 03-14-2019 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 113153)
What really pisses me off about the whole thing is we could have drafted the guy. We had a need and he fit great. Fans wanted him, media was picking him in mocks. Everything seemed to align. Then big sweaty takes a receiver. I’m sure he would have been resigned and not hit the market. Sucks.

Now I'm pissed off all over again. Lol

Coltsalr 03-14-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 113153)
What really pisses me off about the whole thing is we could have drafted the guy. We had a need and he fit great. Fans wanted him, media was picking him in mocks. Everything seemed to align. Then big sweaty takes a receiver. I’m sure he would have been resigned and not hit the market. Sucks.

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 113186)
Now I'm pissed off all over again. Lol

If you’re looking for some real fun, revisit the thread from when Dorsett got drafted (I for the record was saying that I hoped Dorsett’s arrival would get Cribbs off the team not Josh Gordon like I said there):

http://coltfreaks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1699

Luck4Reich 03-14-2019 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 113194)
If you’re looking for some real fun, revisit the thread from when Dorsett got drafted (I for the record was saying that I hoped Dorsett’s arrival would get Cribbs off the team not Josh Gordon like I said there):

http://coltfreaks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1699

Haha nobody liked that pick... funny reading our own comments.

Luck4Reich 03-14-2019 11:01 AM

I seriously wonder wtf Grigson was thinking there? He could have addressed a lot of needs and had the options. Phillip effing Dorsett. Lmao!

VeveJones007 03-14-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 113194)
If you’re looking for some real fun, revisit the thread from when Dorsett got drafted (I for the record was saying that I hoped Dorsett’s arrival would get Cribbs off the team not Josh Gordon like I said there):

http://coltfreaks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1699

I'll probably re-up that thread as well when I dunk on people after Funchess has a good year.

Coltsalr 03-14-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113211)
I'll probably re-up that thread as well when I dunk on people after Funchess has a good year.

The problem is is that if I’m right about Funchess then I’ll look like a douche for bumping the thread C&O-style next year.

If you do it then nobody will be happier than me to be wrong.

VeveJones007 03-14-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 113212)
The problem is is that if I’m right about Funchess then I’ll look like a douche for bumping the thread C&O-style next year.

If you do it then nobody will be happier than me to be wrong.

I already gave C&O permission to bump my posts in the Funchess thread, so I'm counting on him to come through.

If you're right, I won't hold it against you. Part of being a fan is irrationally choosing which mountain to die on. I went hard against the Dorsett pick and I was right. I'm going hard again with Funchess, but we'll see how it looks. I just think Reich will try to magnify his strengths and steer away from his weaknesses like he did with Ebron.

Chromeburn 03-18-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 113206)
Haha nobody liked that pick... funny reading our own comments.

Ehh I actually tried defending him. Cringe. I liked Dorsett, just not as a number 1 pick, I did want Collins. I liked him as a second rounder. Was really wrong on him, why I put more emphasis on route running now.

I watched Dorsett play in the Miami FSU game and he was amazing. Funny thing is, I think the pats really would have taken him in round 1 that year.

FatDT 03-18-2019 02:15 PM

I just read that the Redskins did not bother consulting HC Jay Gruden before signing Collins to that deal. That he heard about it on TV. What a POS organization.

Chromeburn 03-18-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 113637)
I just read that the Redskins did not bother consulting HC Jay Gruden before signing Collins to that deal. That he heard about it on TV. What a POS organization.

Wow! Hotseat? That deal was crazy.

Luck4Reich 03-18-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 113636)
Ehh I actually tried defending him. Cringe. I liked Dorsett, just not as a number 1 pick, I did want Collins. I liked him as a second rounder. Was really wrong on him, why I put more emphasis on route running now.

I watched Dorsett play in the Miami FSU game and he was amazing. Funny thing is, I think the pats really would have taken him in round 1 that year.

Yeah... do you think Grigson caught wind of that possibility and took him thinking he got a player and screwed the Pat's at the same time? Only to screw the Colts.:confused:

Chromeburn 03-18-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 113644)
Yeah... do you think Grigson caught wind of that possibility and took him thinking he got a player and screwed the Pat's at the same time? Only to screw the Colts.:confused:

I think he knew. I think it might have been a bigger factor than it should have been. He really did not like the pats and I think he was the driving factor behind deflate gate. Not that I blame him, every one knows they cheat. But it shouldn’t influence our draft picks. Defense was a much bigger need. If they needed less pressure on Hilton, they should have worked on Moncrief’s game more.


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