Why would I do that? Did I say he should be targeting every FA? Did anyone? You are arguing against a point that no one is making.

Are you satisfied with how the OL has been addressed since Luck was drafted? How about since Ballard was hired?

Andrew Norwell was a UDFA. Hopefully, the Colts can find the next one.

'Hope' is not an effective strategy.

You're right, but effective pro and college scouting is a good strategy. If the Colts don't have that, they'll be in trouble anyway.

The overreaction here reminds me of the Polian days, when the Colts would only sign a few young scrap heap players and everyone would be clamoring that enough wasn't done, then the team would get big contributions from scrap heap FAs and UDFAs and be among the best in the league. Just be patient and see how it plays out. They're going to have to spend some money in FA to meet their cap requirements, so we'll get some guys.

Targets I like:

John Brown
Dontari Poe
Sheldon Richardson
Nigel Bradham
Kyle Fuller
Carlos Hyde
Doug Martin
Bashaud Breeland
Zach Brown
Muhammad Wilkerson
Eric Reid
Tyler Eifert
Jordan Matthews
Ryan Jensen

I don't care about other FAs. I am generally in favor of building through the draft and only getting deals in FA. Norwell this year, or one of the several top OL FAs last year, should've been an exception. We can't put Luck behind a shit line again. Can't do it. We MIGHT have two starters we can count on going into this season.

Agree. I am not freaking out over FA, we are a ways away from really competing so build through the draft. However, we do have a lot of cap space and I wanted norwell. We gotta stop fucking around with the line.

Very true, but I can argue the same about WR2, EDGE, MLB, WILL, and CB1. Have to be very careful overpaying a guard when those premium spots need filling.

So what is the purpose of all this cap space?

Looks like Cousins to Vikings. That helps the Colts if they want to trade down and still get Chubb.

Actually I'm arguing against your overreaction.

Go get your emotional support peacock and have a good cry.

None of those positions blocks for Luck, and only WR had even close to the same caliber of player available in FA. The difference there is obvious.

Good one, sweet internet ref.

It's looking more like Ballard sees this as a three year rebuild. I wouldn't be shocked to see him move back.

Like Dam said, Cousins to Vikings helps the Colts with regard to moving back. I see 4, 5, 6, 11, and 12 as very likely possibilities. 12 would undoubtedly provide the most capital in this draft, but you would definitely miss on Chubb and Nelson.

Completely agree. I would love for the Colts to sign two great OL. I also recognize that there are two additional factors:

1) Many parts of the roster still need significant work. See my last post about how Ballard may view this as a longer rebuild.
2) Players have to want to come to Indy.

With those two factors in mind, I can't condemn Ballard with any degree of certainty.

4, 5, and 6 are the only current move back options. The Colts need Chubb. Trading back is not worth losing him.

We don't know the medicals on Chubb. If those are clean, I completely agree.

A medical flag and the remote possibility Chubb goes 2 are the only reasons I listed 11 and 12.

He was never on my list.

He certainly wasn't on my mine at $8M per year (seriously, wtf?)

I had just thought he might be a potential target with Reich as the new coach.

He won't be running for his life, because the ball will be coming out of his hand much quicker than in the past.

I can't see Reich pushing hard for Burton, because he was a role player, who really offers nothing special.

Reich knows that.

It's also why I don't expect the Colts to go after Jordan Matthews.

He makes sense of he's paid like a mid tier FA/borderline starter. I think he and John Brown would be interesting additions to the receiving corps.

Certainly not pushing hard for him to the point of $8m/year.

If a stupid team (like the Bears) wants to overpay marginal talent, there's obviously nothing you can do about that.

It better !!!

I think there's a lot more to it than that. Yeah in Chud's offense the QB had to hold the ball too long. But Vujnovich, Haeg, Clark, and Good are all backups. They're not good enough. I'd be ok with one of them (not Vujnovich) starting if we got clear upgrades at the other two spots. But outside of Pugh (if his back is actually healed) I'm not convinced those players exist in FA or where we're likely to pick in the draft.

It may have been the interview with Cowherd, but I remember Ballard listing interior OL as one of the best positions in the draft. Maybe he has his eye on 1-2 guys there.

Good question, so they can roll it into next year and not over spend then?? If your not willing to over pay to protect your #1 asset, then I don’t know what your willing to spend it on.

With the third pick in the 2018 NFL Draft the Indianapolis Colts select Guard Quenton Nelson from Notre Dame ...

Meanwhile the pain in the right shoulder of Andrew Luck subsides a bit ... :cool:

Remember all of the "Do something Grigs" posts a couple years ago? Where are they now? :cool:

First, it's not even day one of free agency. These reported deals are just rumors right now. As we all (thankfully) learned, headlines mean nothing until they sign the contract. Second, Andrew Norwell was the best but not the only option out there. There are still starting caliber OL out there and the Colts could spread the money they would've spent on Norwell out to two or three guys who might solidify the line better than one big contract. For example, Justin Pugh and Ryan Jensen could probably be signed for a similar amount of money. Third, if the Colts have a large amount to roll over, it might not be a bad idea to keep rolling it over until such time as they have their own guys worthy of retaining. That was a big struggle for the 00s Colts, and it could be lessened by rollover cap space when the time comes.

A UDFA guard is about to get a huge contact and you want to spend the #3 overall pick on a guard? The positional value isn't there. That pick has to be Chubb.

JMV is saying right now that Louis Riddick is suggesting that Bills are talking with the Colts about the #3 pick. Speculation.....not reporting but still......

Yes I do, I am always for the big ugly guys Dammy, always have been ...
Hell I am one you met me remember? :cool:
Doesn't do us any good to rush the passer if Luck is on sidelines hurt ... Just my opinion

They don't have enough to get to 3. 12 doesn't guarantee Chubb or Davenport. Getting an impact pass rusher out of this pick is more important than trading down and value. If they move up to at least 7 and still have either 21 or their 2019 1, that would be doable. Without that, no thanks.

Chubb is DL, just as much "big uglies". My point was quality guards can be found later (much later) in the draft. Finding quality pass rushers later in the draft is a lot harder.

We know the Bills would love to move up. We don't know if the Colts are serious about moving down.

The speculation doesn't suggest anything otherwise.

I know your point quite well, not as sold on Chubb as you obviously are. There are quality guards sure but not quite like Nelson. If we don't protect our franchise QB all is for naught in my opinion. Not trying to change your mind... Just be glad I am not the guy who gets to pick. You will probably get Chubb at #3 and can say I told ya so. All that I still take Nelson ... :cool:

Donte Moncrief expected to sign with Jaguars

:cool:

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...C:topheadlines

I really like Chubb, but do think that Nelson could very well be the best player from this draft, and i don't care what position the best player is from....you pick him if you have the chance.

popular place last couple years

Jordy Nelson for our annual old-WR-FA signing??