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VeveJones007 02-06-2019 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 109273)
Yep, Autry consistently lined up as a UT last year, and it worked pretty well, so why change it? I'd love to get a guy like Jeffery Simmons, but he's projected to go 15-20 at this point on the low end. I just don't know if the 12th-14th DL in this class is as good as the #1 S or the #2 or #3 CB, and that may be the choice the Colts are faced with. Trading down might even become their best option, depending on what QBs are available and who gets really desperate for one.
They certainly may have played themselves out of a good spot for a pass rusher in Rd1, which is why I keep bringing up other positions like WR and SS. They're likely to have a really good player available at a position of need, but it may not be the perfect match some on here would like.

Dam8610 02-06-2019 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 109285)
They certainly may have played themselves out of a good spot for a pass rusher in Rd1, which is why I keep bringing up other positions like WR and SS. They're likely to have a really good player available at a position of need, but it may not be the perfect match some on here would like.
SS I'd be fine with (I like Abram), but I'd rather draft Noah Fant or trade down than draft a WR. I don't view WR as a big need at all, nor do I see it as a position Ballard would want to pick in Round 1, especially given how reliant Reich's offense is on TE production, and how much Luck likes to target TEs.

Chromeburn 02-06-2019 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 109271)
Are you saying that Autry "should" be an end who moves inside on passing downs? He always lined up inside in 2018.
I’m saying Autry is listed at 260 lbs. He isn’t a 3-tech for every down. We went down that road with Dungy’s defense.

Chromeburn 02-06-2019 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 109273)
Yep, Autry consistently lined up as a UT last year, and it worked pretty well, so why change it? I'd love to get a guy like Jeffery Simmons, but he's projected to go 15-20 at this point on the low end. I just don't know if the 12th-14th DL in this class is as good as the #1 S or the #2 or #3 CB, and that may be the choice the Colts are faced with. Trading down might even become their best option, depending on what QBs are available and who gets really desperate for one.
Simmons might drop because he punched a girl in high school and it’s on video.

I’m eyeing Wilkins, or maybe Tillery.

YDFL Commish 02-06-2019 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 109304)
I’m saying Autry is listed at 260 lbs. He isn’t a 3-tech for every down. We went down that road with Dungy’s defense.
Yes we did, with Keyunta Dawson. But let's not confuse their skill sets.

Chromeburn 02-07-2019 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 109306)
Yes we did, with Keyunta Dawson. But let's not confuse their skill sets.
260 lbs still has trouble defending the run. He is a better player. Doesn’t make him weigh more.

Dam8610 02-07-2019 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 109305)
Simmons might drop because he punched a girl in high school and it’s on video.

I’m eyeing Wilkins, or maybe Tillery.
I doubt Simmons drops far, most mocks I've seen have him gone by 14.

I didn't like what I saw of Wilkins (he did not "singlehandedly beat Alabama" as I've seen claimed so many times, for example), and Tillery seems like a guy who could be had at 34 or later.

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 109316)
260 lbs still has trouble defending the run. He is a better player. Doesn’t make him weigh more.
Autry is listed at 270. It's light for a DT, and he's probably playing heavier, but he's listed at 270.

VeveJones007 02-07-2019 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 109304)
I’m saying Autry is listed at 260 lbs. He isn’t a 3-tech for every down. We went down that road with Dungy’s defense.
The Colts had the 6th best yards/attempt rush defense in the NFL last year. And that was with Autry playing inside.

VeveJones007 02-07-2019 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 109286)
SS I'd be fine with (I like Abram), but I'd rather draft Noah Fant or trade down than draft a WR. I don't view WR as a big need at all, nor do I see it as a position Ballard would want to pick in Round 1, especially given how reliant Reich's offense is on TE production, and how much Luck likes to target TEs.
Hard pass. This team needs a legitimate WR2 before it needs an upgrade at TE3.

Dam8610 02-07-2019 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 109338)
Hard pass. This team needs a legitimate WR2 before it needs an upgrade at TE3.
My main point was that I don't think the first round pick should be used on a skill position player of any sort. If you can't improve the DL or secondary at 26, trading down is the best option to me. That said, resigning Inman solves WR2 for me, and with the injury issues Doyle has had and Ebron's inconsistency, TE could be a position at which this team lacks depth or a true starter fairly easily.


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