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DrSpaceman 01-15-2019 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 106953)
Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).

If Luck is ever out for a long time, Colts are boned. At that point, you may as well embrace your draft position.
I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 01-15-2019 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 106953)
Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).
It is even closer - the Colts had the 3rd pick in the draft before trading down with the Jets.


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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 106955)
On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
+1; there is so much parity in the league, one or two extra wins can be huge

Luck4Reich 01-15-2019 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 106939)
I guess I just cant imagine someone paying a second for:

a 25 year old QB
with a 5-12 record as a starter
with 13 TDs and 7 picks

Russell Wilson was a 3rd
Derek Carr a 2nd
Andy Dalton a 2nd
Colin Kaepernick a 2nd
Dak Prescott 4th
Nick Foles 3rd
Tyrod Taylor 6th

It just seems like whatever team could possibly give us a second for brissett would do a great deal better by picking a QB with that second instead. I dont see brissett as being better that Carr or Dalton. What am I missing?
Value tends to go up based on need and desperation. Like it's been said his value going into draft may not be high but let a 2-0 team start next year and their QB go down watch how much his value rises.

GoBigBlue88 01-15-2019 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 106955)
I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
I just don't think you keep a 2nd round value (IF a team makes that trade) in your pocket -- given it has an expiration date -- on the chance you may have to play that card. The chances your 2nd round pick impacts your franchise long-term >>>> the chances that QB is ever called upon to keep your season alive and does so.

If Brissett walks, highest Colts would get would be an end-of-3rd comp pick. Ballard might play for that (and I doubt it would even be that high), but give me the 2nd round pick if anyone comes calling.

rcubed 01-15-2019 09:59 PM
Yeah, sounds like ballard and the team really him. Ballard said he would have to be blown away by an offer. As NL4C said, that’s probably a deperate team during next season. I think its his last year under contract so i hope they get something for him unless tbey plan on resigning him.

Dewey 5 01-15-2019 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 106938)
Ballard talked about bolstering the lines quite a bit in his post presser. I have a hard time seeing him drafting a receiver 1st. Especially with all the line talent in this draft. I’ve seen quite a few mocks with a WR first. Just don’t see it happening.

I’ve seen Harry play a couple times. Makes great catches, but I worry about his ability to separate. I want to see his 40 and 3-come Times first. I seeso many of his catches contested and the pac-12 doesn’t have that great of corners.
A wr that fights for the ball is a good thing.

Chromeburn 01-16-2019 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 106983)
A wr that fights for the ball is a good thing.
Yes. But a WR that has to constantly fight for the ball because he can’t separate is not. That may be ok for a vet that has slowed down, don’t want to draft a guy like that. And a lot of the WRs this draft look like that kind of guy to me.

omahacolt 01-16-2019 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 106955)
I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
Build a better team. Pats and Steelers do it. Make a good game plan

Luck4Reich 01-16-2019 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 106997)
Build a better team. Pats and Steelers do it. Make a good game plan
This is the way... Pat's and Steelers haven't given a shit who they have kept as their backup in the last 15-20 years.

JAFF 01-16-2019 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 106949)
Because when you don't value that position highly, you end up with Curtis Painter filling the role.
That wasn't the only reason. When you have a tight cap, and a QB who wants to take every snap in practice, not many guys want to sit and watch and rust


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