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Lov2fish 07-20-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234163)
Slavery was legal and now its isnt. Women were denied the vote now they have it. And your right to a gun was to maintain a militia. That need no longer exists, we have a standing army. Nothing is absolute

And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

JAFF 07-20-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 234172)
And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

And that means we can have gun control by legal action.

Nothing is absolute

rcubed 07-20-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 234172)
And they had a convention of states and amended the constitution to right the wrongs of our founders. I will not be penalized for the sins of their thinking.

Try getting a convention of states today to amend anything in the constitution. It is absolute. Scotus has ruled twice it is absolute. You fucking morons need to turn CNN off and learn how this country was formed. Nobody, and I mean nobody but you care about your opinions.

so you are saying its absolute...unless its amended. interesting.

Pez 07-20-2022 02:01 PM

My own opinions aside, I'm struck with the pro-gun camp seeing threats to their rights to possess a gun or ammunition.

Seriously where are all these gun laws everyone says are trampling on their rights? I just don't see any new restrictions that are at all threatening to take away anyone's guns. The NRA has been in the political drivers' seat for decades.

Gun laws are becoming more liberal than ever now. I just dont understand the notion that gun owners are in any way being persecuted.

Lov2fish 07-20-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 234178)
so you are saying its absolute...unless its amended. interesting.

That is how it works. Once amended the new part becomes absolute and free from change by act of congress alone. It takes a convention and 2/3rds of the states to amend the constitution. You can only amend the amendment you opened it for, or adding a new amendment. You can not change or add anything not specifically outlined in the convention of states. I.E. you can get it open to change the 2nd. and then say hey, while we are here lets go ahead and rewrite the 4th. 13th. and 14th. It doesn't fucking work that way. The founders made it difficult for a reason. They knew someday we would become infiltrated with sniveling little whiny bitches who get their panties twisted up when they do not get their way. Fucking liberal are all the same, stick your fingers in your ears and scream to drown out anything that doesn't coincide with what you want to hear.

rcubed 07-20-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 234183)
, stick your fingers in your ears and scream to drown out anything that doesn't coincide with what you want to hear.

sounds a lot like our recent president and his followers.

JAFF 07-20-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 234183)
That is how it works. Once amended the new part becomes absolute and free from change by act of congress alone. It takes a convention and 2/3rds of the states to amend the constitution. You can only amend the amendment you opened it for, or adding a new amendment. You can not change or add anything not specifically outlined in the convention of states. I.E. you can get it open to change the 2nd. and then say hey, while we are here lets go ahead and rewrite the 4th. 13th. and 14th. It doesn't fucking work that way. The founders made it difficult for a reason. They knew someday we would become infiltrated with sniveling little whiny bitches who get their panties twisted up when they do not get their way. Fucking liberal are all the same, stick your fingers in your ears and scream to drown out anything that doesn't coincide with what you want to hear.

That entire statement above is a hot steaming pile. The founders set up a frame work FOR change, because they could not predict the future. Gradual change to meet the needs of the new ages. If anyone is screaming down, its you. I know change will happen. When you have one group who refuses to accept the will of the majority, then things go badly.

It has never been an absolute document. Change will happen. So you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

Lov2fish 07-20-2022 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234188)
That entire statement above is a hot steaming pile. The founders set up a frame work FOR change, because they could not predict the future. Gradual change to meet the needs of the new ages. If anyone is screaming down, its you. I know change will happen. When you have one group who refuses to accept the will of the majority, then things go badly.

It has never been an absolute document. Change will happen. So you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

Your fucking absolute refusal to accept truth is all I need to know about you. Your husband must be extremely proud of you. Majority. You. Are. An. Idiot!

Spike 07-20-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234188)
That entire statement above is a hot steaming pile. The founders set up a frame work FOR change, because they could not predict the future. Gradual change to meet the needs of the new ages. If anyone is screaming down, its you. I know change will happen. When you have one group who refuses to accept the will of the majority, then things go badly.

It has never been an absolute document. Change will happen. So you can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

The majority is not the woke liberal dumb fuck socialists. They do whine and cry the most, but by no means are they the majority. Biden bent the knee to these crybabies and now according to his poll numbers, they don't like the job he is doing. Here's a thought, in Canada, you can't even use a gun to defend yourself, hell move there.

JAFF 07-20-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 234193)
Your fucking absolute refusal to accept truth is all I need to know about you. Your husband must be extremely proud of you. Majority. You. Are. An. Idiot!

Thanks for proving my point. There is no room for absolutism, and those who resist change usually wind up on the outside looking in


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