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Oldcolt 04-30-2021 02:52 PM

Dam you keep stating he had only two sacks last year. While true he only played in 4 games.

Puck 04-30-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 192409)
Ballard says he has really good tape in answer to first question (see whole interview on colts.com). Later says tape is super important to him and is a requirement to be considered in first round.

Yep

Here is a different video I picked the wrong one the 1st time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVAy9VWXC8

Also talks about how the OT's were not prototypical OT's and not near as good as Paye.

I won't be surprised if passes on OT again tonight.

Dam8610 04-30-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 192414)
Dam you keep stating he had only two sacks last year. While true he only played in 4 games.

So should I have an injury concern or a production concern? Or both, considering he didn't produce much more in his full seasons?

TheMugwump 04-30-2021 03:12 PM

Not trying to pile on Dam, but every time he mentions that Paye has no pass rush moves, that he, "Never shows a push-pull, a cross chop, a dip and rip, a swim, a spin, nothing, he just runs into the OT and tries to push him back into the QB like Zach Allen did", I get more convinced that he will be a great pick.

All of those moves are coached, He's been at Michigan. Loved Harbs here as a QB, but he hasn't been known to get the most out of his talent. Especially recently. Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

So yeah, put him in a room with Mathis and Houston. Teach him some moves. He'll be alright.

rcubed 04-30-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 192417)
Yep

Here is a different video I picked the wrong one the 1st time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVAy9VWXC8

Also talks about how the OT's were not prototypical OT's and not near as good as Paye.

I won't be surprised if passes on OT again tonight.

yep, and that explains why he didnt take an OT at 21, But it would surprise me if he didnt take one today, too big of a need and will be value in second round even if not prototypical.

note: surprised, but not shocked.

ah hell, he will probably take a WR and sign OT from whats left in FA

Thorgrim 04-30-2021 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 192423)
yep, and that explains why he didnt take an OT at 21, But it would surprise me if he didnt take one today, too big of a need and will be value in second round even if not prototypical.

note: surprised, but not shocked.

ah hell, he will probably take a WR and sign OT from whats left in FA

I gotta believe that Villanueva is in their sights as plan B.

Chromeburn 04-30-2021 03:42 PM

Voch Lombadi does a breakdown of Paye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKbBu9u9m8

Oldcolt 04-30-2021 04:52 PM

He seems to be a monster in the run. That is nice to hear. He has, apparently, excellent technique in the run, technique he was taught so he is teachable. I do like how disciplined he appear to be. He may not solve our pass rush problems all by himself but I doubt anybody will see him as any sort of weak link. He will improve since it seems he can be coached.

Dam8610 04-30-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 192422)
Not trying to pile on Dam, but every time he mentions that Paye has no pass rush moves, that he, "Never shows a push-pull, a cross chop, a dip and rip, a swim, a spin, nothing, he just runs into the OT and tries to push him back into the QB like Zach Allen did", I get more convinced that he will be a great pick.

All of those moves are coached, He's been at Michigan. Loved Harbs here as a QB, but he hasn't been known to get the most out of his talent. Especially recently. Especially on the defensive side of the ball.

So yeah, put him in a room with Mathis and Houston. Teach him some moves. He'll be alright.

That's the risk. Can he learn it? Because if he can't, he's Zach Allen who can move a little better. Ballard is making a big bet on his coaching staff. I hope it pays off.

Chromeburn 04-30-2021 06:46 PM

He seems a direct replacement for Autry really. Can play the run now, has some pass rush potential. Can move inside and play multiple positions. He’s gonna need some work. Seems like a smart player though, his responsibilities seemed to be set the edge then go depending on the play. Will have QB responsibilities on RPO’s. He reminds me a little of Solomon Thomas.


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