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Hoopsdoc 04-06-2022 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 228293)
QB and pass rush were significantly upgraded

We’re already better we’ve only lost role players or special teams depth guys none of the players that signed elsewhere are game changers

Wide receiver, left tackle, cornerback, and tight end are all significantly worse than they were last year. And Ballard has done absolutely nothing in any of those areas, except for Facsyon, who is likely only depth.

Quarterback might be vastly better but I’d argue the team as a whole is worse.

apballin 04-06-2022 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 228301)
Wide receiver, left tackle, cornerback, and tight end are all significantly worse than they were last year. And Ballard has done absolutely nothing in any of those areas, except for Facsyon, who is likely only depth.

Quarterback might be vastly better but I’d argue the team as a whole is worse.

Totally disagree, pass rush helps CB so ngakwe for ya sin was a huge improvement and Pryor maybe better then a half injured over age Fischer and Doyle barely played last year and he was primarily a blocker when he did play so again I love Jack but no huge loss

ChaosTheory 04-06-2022 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 228293)
QB and pass rush were significantly upgraded

Part of the reason I'm not panicked about WR and DB quite yet is because of this. Clearly both areas could (will?) be upgraded. But both are directly impacted by QB and pass rush which should help.

If Dayo and especially Paye make a leap to go along with Buckner and Ngakoue, it'll make a lesser DB look better. Obviously that applies to QB-WR. We saw in that JAX breakdown video that guys got open. We'll see how confident they are in the WR's and Granson.


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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 228297)
Stephen Holder
@HolderStephen
I will say this: There are a growing number of agents out there who have told me the Colts are being way too stingy on spending. I can't speak to why that is, though some have theories. But regardless of the why, it is what it is at this point.

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...00710886367234

I mean, what do you expect agents to say? Especially for WR's looking at Adams and Hill. I thought a guy like Jarvis Landry might be interesting to consider... then I read that he wants $20m/yr. For Jarvis Landry? Sorry, but get fucked.


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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
I think folks on this board are severely underestimating the quality effect of a top notch QB on an NFL team.

How many teams do we honestly think would've handled losing their 29-year-old top-5 QB two weeks before the season starts any better than the Colts did? The league is so disproportionately affected by QB (by design) that you either have a good one or you almost cannot compete.

The two losing seasons we've had under Ballard were Pagano's farewell tour and the Andrew Luck surprise from hell, both of which had Brissett at QB. With Ryan I expect a season more inline with what we saw with Luck and Rivers. And as sour as we all ended up on Wentz... it's worth noting how close 9-8 was to 12-5. Even with him.

rm1369 04-06-2022 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
I think folks on this board are severely underestimating the quality effect of a top notch QB on an NFL team.

I think Ryan will make a huge difference. They will likely be a playoff team. But I personally don’t think Ballard gave Rivers enough support and I suspect he’ll do the same with Ryan. Be as good as he thinks he can without affecting the future. It just has a ceiling that’s lower than I want. If you are happy with it, good for you.

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
Guys like to toss out that Ballard = Grigson because of their similar record. The huge difference is that Grigson had Andrew Luck to cover his weak roster and Ballard has not.

I’ve not seen anyone say that. I certainly don’t agree. But if I could combine Ballard’s talent evaluation with Grigson’s aggressiveness I would. Ballard is clearly a better GM though regardless of record. That doesn’t make Ballard above questioning though.

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
Ballard has built a roster than is in the playoff hunt even though we have been weak at QB for the past 4 years. Yes, I know Phillip Rivers was one of those years and we got to the playoffs and I think that supports my point that having a top QB helps in all things in the NFL.

Ballard has admittedly succeeded in building a decent roster overall. Unfortunately his success so far has not included filling what I consider the most important positions. Hopefully Paye is the long term solution at DE, but that is still a huge question mark. It’s a good roster overall, I’m not trying to knock it. Seriously. But let’s be honest, if he was GM of the Bears or Vikings and built a decent team minus a QB, pass rusher, or LT none of you would worship him like you are.

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
Boo hoo. Waaaaahhh! Ballard has not signed MY favorite free agents. Ballard does not play that game, has not played that game in any season he has been here but yet continues to put out rosters that are fiscally responsible (which, regardless of other people's opinions, still matters), is loyal to HIS players and now has a QB that, hopefully, can make the offense hum.

Oh shut the fuck up. Seriously, this is nothing but a bunch of BS. Nobody is crying, they are expressing their opinions. Just as you are when you are sucking Ballard’s dick. Don’t think you do? Yeah probably not, just like nobody is fucking crying. He never plays that game? Yeah you are right - its exactly what some of us are fucking saying while you guys tell us there is plenty of time, a lot of chances, etc. WE KNOW BALLARD ISNT LIKELY TO SIGN ANY ONE. It’s exactly what we are saying. He will put out a mediocre to decently good team that doesn’t risk anything in the future. I know and you seem to agree. But I’m crying because I think that won’t win a SB and it’s wasting the couple years they will have with a good QB (the position you keep saying is key)? Fuck off.

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
Do I have confidence in Pryor at left tackle? Nope, but apparently team management does and I am good with that.

Do I wish I knew who was WR2, CB1, Safety3, OG3 and OT3 (the 5 positions I am most concerned about)? Yes, I do but team management is being patient. I sort of hate patient but I have trust in them that by week 1, we will have a quality plan and roster in place.

Good for you. I don’t trust any of that. I don’t trust it because of their words and previous actions. They’ve been perfectly fine waiting to solve an issue next year. But guess how much my lack of confidence affects the team and my life? The exact same amount your confidence does - zero. So you keep sucking Ballard’s dick and I’ll keep crying.

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 228300)
The question is, since you are all Colts fans and have seen how Ballard operations, why are you not being patient?

Because I’ve seen the results of Ballard’s methods. Look at DE last year. WR for a couple years. LT last year after knowing it was coming. But when you have a 2 year window with, what you seem to agree is the most important ingredient (QB), you don’t have the luxury of waiting until next year. Not if you want to win a SB.

Puck 04-06-2022 11:31 PM

Wanna know why I am not as worried about wr as the rest of you???? Franks offense doesn't rely on big play WR.

He is a possession coach. Use the clock and keep the d off of the field.


Give me a TE like Ebron with the weapons already here and I'm fine

The top WR's in FA want big bucks because of the contracts they are seeing. Yet they are not worth it

Ballard told them what they are worth TO THE COLTS. Take it or leave it

I'd look for WR in the draft and not put a "round" on it. Take BPA at any pick and upgrade the team. Not the position.



For the record. I want Cine. Otherwise i hope that Ridder falls to us. That kid could be a star especially behind Ryan for a few yrs

Also Like Skye Moore

Oldcolt 04-06-2022 11:32 PM

Would just like to point out that we do not have a team yet. It is being put together as we bitch.

Discflinger 04-07-2022 04:20 AM

I know that jostling is why we are here, but…

In Ballard I trust.

JAFF 04-07-2022 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 228303)
Totally disagree, pass rush helps CB so ngakwe for ya sin was a huge improvement and Pryor maybe better then a half injured over age Fischer and Doyle barely played last year and he was primarily a blocker when he did play so again I love Jack but no huge loss

Miss doyle in the locker room, some needs to step up and fill that huge hole

Racehorse 04-07-2022 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 228308)


I’ve not seen anyone say that. I certainly don’t agree. But if I could combine Ballard’s talent evaluation with Grigson’s aggressiveness I would. Ballard is clearly a better GM though regardless of record. That doesn’t make Ballard above questioning though.


Most do not think he is above questioning, but some of you refuse to acknowledge anything good. Maybe there is a middle ground we could all agree on if we weren't so hard-headed.

rm1369 04-07-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 228318)
Most do not think he is above questioning, but some of you refuse to acknowledge anything good. Maybe there is a middle ground we could all agree on if we weren't so hard-headed.

I freely acknowledge Ballard’s strengths, I just don’t see any acknowledgment of his weaknesses by those constantly jumping to his defense. Only straw men, blue colored glasses, and gratefulness he isn’t Grigson.

Point out something as simple as free agents have no reason to take less here to win because Ballard’s teams haven’t really won anything and people jump to Ballard’s defense and start telling me the grass isn’t always greener as if I’m asking for him to be fired. What I said was fact - the Colts don’t have any recent history of winning to make that argument. And I didn’t bring it up out of the blue, I was responding to someone suggesting that’s what free agents should do if they want to win. Hell, his penny pinching with Autry could makes the case this isn’t even a good long term free agent landing spot.


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