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Dam8610 11-13-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 249889)
Who were you wanting at that pick?

I wanted Jenkins but would've been fine with Darrisaw, who is now the starting LT for the 8-1 Vikings. Obviously the medicals on Jenkins were a bigger deal than I possibly could have known. Darrisaw apparently was a consideration at 21 for the Colts, but they went Paye instead. Didn't like the pick at the time because he was Ballard's typical traited up low production DE. I think Darrisaw and Justin Houston would've been a better combo than Paye and Eric Fisher, but I doubt a DE as talented as Raimann falls to Round 3 of this year's draft, but that's definitely a hindsight thing.

Racehorse 11-13-2022 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 249888)
How's the Colts' LT play been this season?

You always like to play the hindsight game. At least you are consistent.

IndyNorm 11-13-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 249873)
Yet so many fans (Dam) said it was a horrible pick.

Not defending Dam, but Ballard should have gone w/ Darrisaw which is what a lot of us on here said back then (including myself). In a vacuum Paye has turned out to be a good pick, but we had a pressing need at a more valuable position and Darrisaw would have obviously fit that need to a T as well as have been great value at 21.

Dam8610 11-13-2022 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 249899)
You always like to play the hindsight game. At least you are consistent.

It's not hindsight if you call it at the time. Has Paye consistently generated a pass rush yet? Or does he look like a guy who will be primarily a good run defender and won't generate much pass rush?

Racehorse 11-14-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 249923)
It's not hindsight if you call it at the time. Has Paye consistently generated a pass rush yet? Or does he look like a guy who will be primarily a good run defender and won't generate much pass rush?

Here is a better question: Does this defense struggle more when he is not on the field? Absolutely. Everyone saw it when he missed a game, and again yesterday when he was ruled out during the game. He is a rock for this defense.

omahacolt 11-14-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 249946)
Here is a better question: Does this defense struggle more when he is not on the field? Absolutely. Everyone saw it when he missed a game, and again yesterday when he was ruled out during the game. He is a rock for this defense.

if healthy, paye would have probably had double digit sacks. and he was by far the best at getting consistent pressure.

i understand wanting the LT position shored up, but no need to act like paye is a bad player. he was a good pick

Dam8610 11-15-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 249970)
if healthy, paye would have probably had double digit sacks. and he was by far the best at getting consistent pressure.

i understand wanting the LT position shored up, but no need to act like paye is a bad player. he was a good pick

There is a gigantic gap between "not an elite pass rusher" and "bad player". I never said he's been a bad player, and he has exceeded my expectations to this point. I doubt he'll ever be an elite pass rusher (think T.J. Watt last year, Nick Bosa, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, prime Von Miller, etc.)

JAFF 11-15-2022 08:09 PM

Would have, could have, should have: waste of time


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