Then why do it?

And if that’s the plan why keep sending Gilmore and Buckner out there?

There was enough of a hurry up and shit the bed feeling to what we saw yesterday that I am inclined to think there's something to be said about the above.

Yesterday was insane, but in the end, the best thing that could have happened for the franchise yesterday, happened.

Reich never established a winning culture here. Never. If he had we wouldn't have continually started the seasons he coached like we did. I am glad he is gone. I am just riding out this year, a year that went down the tubes with Reich as our head coach. I am actually really glad we lost this game. A win and we are drafting 15th, the loss and we are at 7. There is so much wrong with this team that it is a fools errand to try to point out any one thing as the culprit. We are a shit team this year but this being the NFL next year who knows?

Sure a young QB let’s you sell “hope and potential “ for the next 3 years atleast

I wasn’t in on the game thread but did anyone notice the officials discuss a penalty with Ventrone and not Saturday? Who’s really the coach?

It’s all about evaluating the players, not winning the games at this point.

That jumped out to me. Highest scoring game of the season and your offense produced a single touchdown. Also, we had eight drives in the 2nd half because MIN kept scoring obviously. I want to say the average is like 12 per game. The number of plays on those drives were 4, 6, 3, 4, 3, 4, 5, and 3.

Not to excuse the defense, which was getting absolutely torched in the 2nd half... but our offense has consistently failed to compliment them. Yesterday was a whirlwind. They'd gash us down the field for a TD and you're like, ok what the fuck? Get to the sideline, regroup, figure some things out, grab a Gatora... DEFENSE! Back on the field!


Ultimately, the intention doesn't matter. Tanking for a high draft pick, keeping fans in the stands, thinking he knows better than the coach... whatever the reason is... fucking with the on-field decisions took us down a much worse path.

And potential future prospects for FO, coaches, and players are going to be influenced by that.

Yeah, I personally will be much more interested in watching a new fresh QB navigating the team than all these re-treads who you already sort of know the book on. It at least brings some energy that is severely lacking at present.

I was a Frank fan, until I had to not be one. When the team stunk up the joint at the end of last year, I thought it was Wentz. However, it became obvious that Frank was the issue.

Players don’t want to tank. Why would you lose to try and get a guy that will replace you. Coaches don’t either because losing means they get fired. But if you remove certain pieces and cripple a team… you are just giving the fans what they want, plus you get into a position to grab a QB and maybe kick the tires on a outside the box coaching hire.

I mean we weren’t going to with the SB this year anyway. So just embrace the suck to try and get better. Do people mourn the loss of the ‘97 season or do they remember drafting Manning?