Man oh man is there a lot of work to do in the off season. It's going to be hard to stomach Brisket starting again next year, I'm not gonna lie. At least this season is over now

According to Colts Wire, the Colts have the 13th pick in this year’s draft.

They also have the Redskins second round pick which is # 34, along with their own #45. This could be a great draft.

Yeah, not looking forward to it. I've seen enough of JB, more than enough.

Problem solved. And I didn't even watch the shitshow.

Lucky you

I’m ok if he starts, as long as we have some plan in place for the future at the position. They didn’t have a chance to do anything with Luck’s announcement. Now they have an off season.

Picks 12, 53, and 56 were enough for the Bills to move up to 7 to draft Josh Allen. Judging by that trade, picks 13, 34, and 45 should be enough to get the Colts into the top 3, and might even be enough to get to 1. I haven't extensively studied this QB class yet, but if the Colts have a QB they think can be the guy, now is the time to mortgage the draft capital to go get him.

Bengals are not going to give up the #1 pick. They have the same huge need for a QB that we do. The value of those picks you mentioned isn't enough to get there anyway. If you want the #1 pick, you usually have to give up more than the draft value chart dictates, not less.

That said, I don't think we move up. We have A LOT of needs, and we need those picks to fill those needs.

Burrow would almost be worth it, but you’d have to package this years first and both second rounders, next years first, and probably JB too.

That's not happening.... but I wouldn't care about losing JB..he sucks.

That would suck, but you HAVE to have a franchise type quarterback to compete in today’s NFL.

For a franchise QB, I’d make that trade in a heartbeat. But I think the price might be higher if Burrow fits that bill.

Here is the draft order ahead of us and my thoughts on whether they draft a QB.

Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - Yes
NY Giants - No
Miami - ??? what do they do with Rosen
LA Chargers - Probably draft a QB
Carolina - No
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Probably not
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Maybe/No. Gruden doesnt seem to like rookie QBs
Indianapolis - HOPE SO!!

so I have 2 yes, 1 probable, and 1 question mark ahead of us for drafting QBs (obviously not taking into account other teams trading up). with that scenario I think we would need to trade up in front of chargers as I dont think we would be able to go ahead of Detroit. however, knowing how ballard likes his picks I would guess we stay at our current spot and see if one of the QBs drops to us

I have to admit that Burrow looks exactly like the type of QB for this offense. Accurate and decisive, elusive in the pocket and can move to extend the play if necessary. He find his correct option with ease. His accuracy is outstanding. His arm isn't the strongest but it is more than adequate and he throws with good touch.

I don't think the Bengals will listent to offers. They have been mediocre for too long to trade the pick. But if they were to listen, I would throw a package their way. Honestly, trading a bunch of picks does suck, but you can supplement through free agency and if you get a franchise QB it could last you 10+ years at the position. We have a lot of pieces in place already. I know this is counter to Ballard's style, exact opposite really, but things change a little when you needa QB.

Also Hurts looked awful. I would not look in his direction. Trying to find a bargain at the position doesn't usually work. Plus the years you have to spend to figure out if he is good. This may end up being Ballard's most important off-season of his career.

I disagree a little


Cincinnati - Yes
Washington- No
Detroit - No
NY Giants - No
Miami - Yes, but with which pick?
LA Chargers - Yes
Carolina - Yes/Maybe
Arizona - No
Jacksonville - Depends what option is there. But I think they may roll with Minshew
Cleveland - No
NY Jets - No
Oakland - Gruden wants a coach on the field like Gannon was. Herbert is pretty smart, might be a possibility here.
Indianapolis - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


I think there are a lot more teams looking for QB's in front of us. This is why mediocrity sucks when looking for a QB. I think Burrow, Tua, and Herbert could all be gone by the time we pick.

Agree Detroit is not taking a QB. But if one is there they like then Ballard should make a trade for Stafford. Not sure how much that would take considering they owe him a ton next season.

my bad - for some reason I thought staffords contact was up on detroit. so I would change that to a NO as well.

I think carolina sticks with grier unless tua is there...

PFF has a mock draft showing us taking Herbert. Not saying PFF is THE authority but he might be worth a look this week in the Rose Bowl.

Oh boy, an Oregon quarterback.

Yeah it would suck to get some one like Dan Fouts

HAHA agree but if you think you're getting one from LSU or ALA let me know your connection bc im looking for some fresh smoke.

MUCH more recently, Akili Smith or Marcus Mariotta. Although we should probably look for a QB from Navy since Roger Staubach went there.

For the cost, I wouldn't want them. There isn't much in free agency either. If I had to choose, I guess I'd take Bridgewater, but I haven't followed him much to see if he's any better than status quo.

Wilson and Brees were not first round draft picks. Neither was Brady or Garrapollo. Aaron Rodgers was out of Cal, bottom of the first round.

Maybe we should look into Mitch Trubiski?

Rumors are that Gruden wants to go a different direction at QB. If he does, then I would be for the Colts getting Carr until we hit on one in the draft. He's better than Brisket.

The only thing going for us there is Gruden prefers vets over rookies. But his contract is so long he might be willing to break in a rookie.

You forgot to mention Lamar Jackson. You are naming outliers, this has been broken down before. Best chance to get a franchise QB is in the top 15 picks, after that the odds start dropping, and once out of the first round they drop dramatically.

Feel free to identify the next outlier in this group though.

Another thing to note is a QB that gets drafted later usually goes to a better team as opposed to a crappy team at the top of the draft. Easing that transition to the NFL can help a lot.

While you are bringing up needles in a haystack, Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers.

LOL, your last sentence has to be sarcasm.

Since we're talking QBs, anyone else have thoughts on Jacob Eason? I watched a few games and came away very impressed. He routinely made NFL caliber throws and ball placements, showed the ability to escape pressure and extend plays, and ran an offense very similar to Reich's. The biggest difference I saw between Eason and Burrow was the quality of talent surrounding them.

I wonder if Gruden would dump Carr and bring in Tom Brady

Brees was not a needle in a haystack. All Wilson has done is win. Did that in college too.

You can find talented leaders past the first 15 picks. What was the knock on Brees and Wilson? Too short.

Half of the Colts fans wanted Leaf instead of Manning. Why? He was the better athlete. His 10 cent head is what held him back.

They need a smart guy who can react quickly to defensive reads and has a better than average arm with great accuracy.

The most successful QBs have brains as well as athletic ability. Why has Fitzpatrick hung around all these years? Smart enough to read defenses and make plays.

And yes, the Tribisky comment was sarcasm. All american athlete, 5 and dime head

There isn't a large body of work for him. Supposedly he progressed very well at Georgia under their OC, but still got beat out by Fromm. He fits the eye test and the arm strength. I read a rumor that he had still not learned the whole playbook at Washington, but that was a rumor and could be completely false. If he isn't smart enough it will come out in the interviews and tests. Frankly as a fan its hard to evaluate the QB's because we are missing the most important part which is the interview.

If he couldn’t beat Fromm I have little faith in him. Fromm is not that good.

Am I retarded for thinking we should consider Rivers?

No way do I want Rivers on the Colts. He's done, stick a fork in him.

I think he is done. He struggled mightily this year.

Completely agree, but even if he had a little left I’m just not sure I could cheer for that guy. He has one of the most punchable faces I’ve ever seen. I’m sure the Colts struggles against SD don’t help, but fuck that guy. I’d rather have another year of Brissett than cheer for Rivers.

no rivers. I would be open to carr if he is available without trading any assets.

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It's not at all retarded, but I think that it would be too risky ........ I wouldn't be surprised if Rivers had a couple of 4,000-or-more-yard/30-or-more TD pass seasons left in him, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he was done. Hence, I would rather go with either a high draft pick out of college and/or another proven commodity whom is at least 4 or 5 years younger than Rivers if we aren't going to simply ride out Jacoby Brissett for one final year.

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Eason didn't get beat out by Fromm, really. He suffered a knee injury, then Georgia was winning with Fromm so they never went back to him. I've also heard the rumors about his work ethic, and if they're true, Ballard likely won't draft him, but the pure talent comes through on the tape.


Joe Burrow couldn't beat out a guy who went on to play WR in the NFL at Ohio State, but the Bengals are probably going to draft him.

I'd rather roll with Brisket than bring that asshole Rivers in.