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Brylok 12-25-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 48259)
That's a HELL NO to Jason Garrett. Don't want Saben either.

Jerry Jones won't fire Garrett. Where would he find another empty vessel to use as a puppet? Saben isn't going anywhere either. His wife is the Queen of Tuscaloosa.

DrSpaceman 12-25-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 48266)
I bet he could still out coach Chuck. :cool:

I thought the same thing, but in the spirit of Christmas, was trying to be nice and leave it unsaid

Coltsalr 12-26-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 48291)
I thought the same thing, but in the spirit of Christmas, was trying to be nice and leave it unsaid

I didn't even like Marty, but this was a really good feature that they did on his Alzheimer's:

http://broadband.espn.go.com/video/clip?id=20896213

Interesting that he/his family agreed to being interviewed and displaying his ailments on full display like this.

rcubed 12-26-2017 01:33 PM

Per brad wells twitter (I know, its brad wells). I wonder what the rift would be?


Brad Wells
@BradWellsNFL
I have heard nothing regarding Peyton Manning, Jon Gruden, and the Colts. What I have heard is a divide between Chris Ballard and Irsay's daughters. That's rumor. Nothing I can confirm.
7:28 AM - Dec 26, 2017

Puck 12-26-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 48335)
Per brad wells twitter (I know, its brad wells). I wonder what the rift would be?


Brad Wells
@BradWellsNFL
I have heard nothing regarding Peyton Manning, Jon Gruden, and the Colts. What I have heard is a divide between Chris Ballard and Irsay's daughters. That's rumor. Nothing I can confirm.
7:28 AM - Dec 26, 2017

Well WTF does that mean?

Puck 12-26-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 48342)
Well WTF does that mean?

I hope they're not trying to save pagshit because they want to save some money or like him as a person

Brylok 12-26-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 48343)
I hope they're not trying to save pagshit because they want to save some money or like him as a person

Irsay is phasing himself out, the daughters want to keep Chuck, and Ballard wants to get rid of him? Yikes. I hope not. Pagano has to go.

Racehorse 12-26-2017 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 48344)
Irsay is phasing himself out, the daughters want to keep Chuck, and Ballard wants to get rid of him? Yikes. I hope not. Pagano has to go.

or Ballard wants the daughters to force their dad out and they don't like the idea

rcubed 12-26-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 48347)
or Ballard wants the daughters to force their dad out and they don't like the idea

I was thinking more along these lines. Maybe not force him out, but ballard encouraging jim to take a back seat and let ballard run the show, be the face. In short, stop talking and tweeting shit. May have rubbed the daughters the wrong way.

njcoltfan 12-26-2017 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 48343)
I hope they're not trying to save pagshit because they want to save some money or like him as a person

If that’s the case, I would think they risk losing Ballard !! If I was Ballard I would give Irsay the choice of him or me!

Puck 12-26-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 48350)
I was thinking more along these lines. Maybe not force him out, but ballard encouraging jim to take a back seat and let ballard run the show, be the face. In short, stop talking and tweeting shit. May have rubbed the daughters the wrong way.

He has t tweeted much in a long time

rcubed 12-26-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 48361)
He has t tweeted much in a long time

that's what I am saying. Irsay said a bunch of shit early this year - Luck coming back, O-line is fixed, etc. Maybe ballard told him to stop, let him handle the team stuff.

Butter 12-26-2017 05:15 PM

Or it could all be Bullshit since it is Brad Wells.

omahacolt 12-26-2017 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 48380)
Or it could all be Bullshit since it is Brad Wells.

exactly

why the hell is anyone even acknowledging his bullshit

apballin 12-26-2017 05:56 PM

I'd go

1. Leslie Frazier

2. Jim Harbaugh

3. Hate to say this Matt Patricia

Racehorse 12-26-2017 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 48385)
I'd go

1. Leslie Frazier

2. Jim Harbaugh

3. Hate to say this Matt Patricia

How about

1. Not Pagano
2. Definitely not Pagano
3. No way in hell Pagano

FatDT 12-26-2017 06:36 PM

Lol Leslie Frazier

YDFL Commish 12-26-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 48385)
I'd go

1. Leslie Frazier

2. Jim Harbaugh

3. Hate to say this Matt Patricia

Where's your butt buddy alter ego been?

Luck4Reich 12-26-2017 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 48407)
Where's your butt buddy alter ego been?

Maybe Dam got stuck up apballins butt... now Dam is literally talking out of his ass.:cool:

albany ed 12-27-2017 09:21 AM

On a sports talk show this morning, Bruce Arians name got mentioned.

DrSpaceman 12-27-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 48434)
On a sports talk show this morning, Bruce Arians name got mentioned.

I think he will be available and while I like Arians, I agree with others who have stated his type of vertical emphasized passing game is what has been the problem for Luck and the Colts for 5 years.

sherck 12-27-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 48455)
I think he will be available and while I like Arians, I agree with others who have stated his type of vertical emphasized passing game is what has been the problem for Luck and the Colts for 5 years.

Concur.

I see what a lot of the NFL is running and it is basically a West Coast Offense with a mix of longer patterns on each and every single play giving the QB options at multiple levels. Check the long ball to see if coverage was blown and if you have time or progress and hit someone shorter in space with hopefully room to run.

Our current offense often floods the same space with 2 or 3 receivers grouping all of the defenders into the space where the ball is going. Does not result in much YAC.

I would love to see Luck in a real offensive system. Arians system is not what I want; we saw that in 2012 with the long ball all the time. No thanks.

Walk Worthy,

DrSpaceman 12-27-2017 11:02 PM

Discussion today on the local talk radio (in Indy right now for the holidays) was about this. Not by Dakich, but whoever comes on 1070 after him.

Consensus seemed to be Toub, who is likely Ballard's top pick, would be a tough sell to the fans, whether he is the right pick or not, given his lack of previous HC experience and the fact Irsay the last few seasons seemed to be striking out for a big name coaching hire and failed. Toub would be a bit of a let down compared to the guys it seemed Irsay was going after

Further the feeling was would be best to have someone with some prior head coaching experience or at the very least someone with just more than 1-2 years as experience as a coordinator, pointing out how while Pagano was the DC in Baltimore, it was only for a season and the D was pretty stacked at the time he was coaching him and with a good system in place even before he took the job.

Also felt the job would have been much easier to hire for 1-2 years ago, when Pagano should have been fired and before there was the lingering issue with Luck's shoulder. For that reason its not likely to be a "big name" hire, so basically forget Harbaugh (I though that was a longshot before anyway) or any well established coach looking to make a change.

All decent things hard to argue, though not sure where that leaves things on the coaching front.

DrSpaceman 12-27-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 48312)
I didn't even like Marty, but this was a really good feature that they did on his Alzheimer's:

http://broadband.espn.go.com/video/clip?id=20896213

Interesting that he/his family agreed to being interviewed and displaying his ailments on full display like this.

That's a good feature and not matter how you feel about him as a coach, its a horrible disease for any family to be put through.

But Marty really was a HORRIBLE playoff coach. 5-13 career playoff record. I know many things play into that record, like the Fumble, the Drive, 3 missed FGs vs. the Colts I believe in 1995, even the fluky INT for Brady and then a fumble on the INT return in 2006. Heck the Colts benefited greatly from his losses over the years. But still, that's a bad record.

5 times he had teams with eleven wins or more that lost in the first round in the playoffs. Those aren't just playoff teams, those are teams that should be conference championship contenders that lose in the first round. And this is with multiple different teams over multiple different decades, not just one team that failed over and over

I know Manning, as QB, struggled with this same perception for years, but he actually ended up near .500 for his career in the playoffs, which is not great but respectable.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/SchoMa0.htm

apballin 12-28-2017 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 48408)
Maybe Dam got stuck up apballins butt... now Dam is literally talking out of his ass.:cool:

Nice post Michael Sam

apballin 12-28-2017 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 48407)
Where's your butt buddy alter ego been?

Your mom's like the rest of us?

YDFL Commish 12-29-2017 05:19 PM

Hears on XM Radio today that there is an apparent rift between Bill O'Brien and GM Rick Smith. So O'Brien may be on his way out.

Anybody interested?

Indiana V2 12-29-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 48805)
Hears on XM Radio today that there is an apparent rift between Bill O'Brien and GM Rick Smith. So O'Brien may be on his way out.

Anybody interested?

Let me think about it...no.

GoBigBlue88 12-29-2017 11:48 PM

I hate this YOU GOTTA HIRE A BIG NAME thing JMV is on about. The last big name Irsay trumpeted was Joe Philbin, so how's that working out?

FatDT 12-30-2017 02:36 AM

Why is a big name important?

omahacolt 12-30-2017 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 48871)
Why is a big name important?

It isn't

Just more nonsense and rumors

YDFL Commish 12-30-2017 08:06 PM

I'm going to start compiling names here, feel free to add.
This list is in no particular order:

Jim Harbaugh
David Shaw
Nick Saban
Jon Gruden
Bill Cowher
Jim Mora Jr
Dave Toub
Josh McDaniels
Matt Patricia
Jim Bob Cooter
Teryl Austin
Scott Linehan
Todd Haley
Dennis Allen
Frank Reich
Pete Carmichael
Matt Lafleur
Pat Schurmer
Mike Smith
Mike Shannahan
Mike Shula
Matt Nagy
Tom Cable

Dewey 5 12-31-2017 12:06 AM

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No surprise, but Indianapolis is expected to part ways with head coach Chuck Pagano, per sources.

GoBigBlue88 12-31-2017 12:10 AM

If this team hires Tom Cable -- the guy who will be bounced in SEA because their OL is actually somehow worse than Indy's -- then Irsay can kiss any chance of a 2018 fanbase goodbye.

Dewey 5 12-31-2017 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 48946)
If this team hires Tom Cable -- the guy who will be bounced in SEA because their OL is actually somehow worse than Indy's -- then Irsay can kiss any chance of a 2018 fanbase goodbye.

What makes you think Cable is a viable candidate? I agree with you but I haven't seen his name surface.

FatDT 12-31-2017 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 48946)
If this team hires Tom Cable -- the guy who will be bounced in SEA because their OL is actually somehow worse than Indy's -- then Irsay can kiss any chance of a 2018 fanbase goodbye.

Cable has had success elsewhere hasn't he? I don't mean as a HC, though the fan the table in the AFC West the year he was fired. My impression is that Seattle's OL problems come from lack of investment (remember when they traded Pro Bowl center Max Unger for Jimmy Smith?) and the difficulty of blocking for Wilson when he is moving around so much.

Wouldn't consider Cable for HC but maybe for OL coach or OC.

YDFL Commish 12-31-2017 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 48950)
What makes you think Cable is a viable candidate? I agree with you but I haven't seen his name surface.

Bleacher Report is suggesting that Cable is a viable candidate.

Coltsalr 12-31-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 48946)
If this team hires Tom Cable -- the guy who will be bounced in SEA because their OL is actually somehow worse than Indy's -- then Irsay can kiss any chance of a 2018 fanbase goodbye.

Cable sounds more like a Ballard than an Irsay guy.

One of the rare instances where we’d support Irsay meddling into the GM’s affairs?

Indiana V2 12-31-2017 09:53 AM

Pretty much anyone would be an upgrade over Pagano, however i would prefer someone who has previous HC experience in the hope that they will have learned from their mistakes the first time around, not expecting another Belichick, but just don't want to possibly suffer through another first timer again.

Dewey 5 12-31-2017 10:15 AM

Cable would be a horrible choice. He has never won on any level as a HC. I would rather see Ballard tab one of his two coaches at KC. I hope he casts a wide net and gets the right guy in here. He can't fuck this up. Irsay can't afford to have this fucked up again.


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