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Chaka 11-02-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 89617)
I'm a bit worried about the Jags....I know that they are back sliding but their dline absolutely raped our oline last year.....I hope that AC and Ryan Kelly spend their bye week thinking about that......I would love to see them return the favor next week.....with a little bit of Nelson, Glowinski, and Smith loving added to the party....now that would be fun!

The recent wave of love for our OL has come after playing two bad teams (Raiders and Bills). JAX will present a better challenge from which we can judge our OL's progress.

rcubed 11-02-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 89629)
All I know is, the past 2 games have been sheer joy to watch, at least from an offensive perspective. Luck is doing his taxes back there and just killing teams.

I doubt they washed his uniform after Oakland.

the oakland win seems less impressive after seeing them get destroyed by the 49ers 3rd stringer.

albany ed 11-02-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 89645)
The recent wave of love for our OL has come after playing two bad teams (Raiders and Bills). JAX will present a better challenge from which we can judge our OL's progress.


I agree. After watching the 49ers totally dominate the raiders, I'm less optimistic about our OL. They're going to be good, but it remains to be seen if they are that good yet. The Jags will be a good test, one that I think will show just how much the OL still needs to learn.

JAFF 11-02-2018 05:11 PM

Nelson had a great month. Good for him. He has all of the tools to be a very good (maybe GREAT) O lineman. He's big, he's strong, and his a DICK.

Seriously, he likes kicking the shit out of people. If he wasn't playing for the Colts, he's Rocky Balboa collecting for the local shylock.

I understand people who don't like taking this kid in the first round. If this guy is a 10 year, pro bowl player, what is NOT to like?

JAFF 11-02-2018 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 89645)
The recent wave of love for our OL has come after playing two bad teams (Raiders and Bills). JAX will present a better challenge from which we can judge our OL's progress.

You are right. But they kicked bad teams. They didnt play down to them. jags will be a fight, itvwill test their will power.

omahacolt 11-02-2018 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 89578)
Agreed - any grading system that isn't completely transparent needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Here's the description that PFF gives of how it's grades are reached, in case anyone was curious:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pff-player-grades

Basically, their team of "300 plus staff" give a grade to each player of between -2 and +2 on each play, and then they tweak and "normalize" those numbers in some way that makes sense to them, and finally they convert it all onto a 0-100 scale. As Dam points out, subjective input factors HEAVILY in these analyses and, by the way, what makes the -2 to +2 initial scale appropriate to begin with?

People just like this stuff because it attaches a number to a player's performance that give the impression of significance and objectivity, but looking under the hood reveals that it really doesn't and often the PFF numbers simply do not make sense - such as Leonard being ranked behind Vander Esch. These kind of things then generate lots of discussion, which has the unintended effect of boosting PFF's profile even more - so PFF isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Fantastic post. Couldn’t agree more

JAFF 11-03-2018 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 89578)

People just like this stuff because it attaches a number to a player's performance that give the impression of significance and objectivity, but looking under the hood reveals that it really doesn't and often the PFF numbers simply do not make sense - such as Leonard being ranked behind Vander Esch. .

Did anyone have Leonard ranked ahead for Vander Esch? Just looking back at a couple of draft sites, I didn't find him in the top ten. One site had Skai Moore ahead of him.

Most of these sites use a dart board to get a number.

Oldcolt 11-03-2018 09:52 AM

I've been watching the last 3 games and believe that this offensive line is this good. I know that we played lousy teams, but we dominated them. I cannot remember the last time the offensive line handled any team like this and we have played plenty of crappy teams in the last 10 years. We won't dominate good teams like that but that is because they are good teams, not because this line will be regressing. And let me give props to our backs, I cannot believe how much better as a group they are at blocking. We are on our way Freaks.

JAFF 11-03-2018 10:22 AM

Just a couple thoughts:

Having Costanzo back is huge.

Having Kelly back has been huge. He missed many games last year.

The Smith kid has surprised me, I don't know about others. He looked ok in the pre season, but he was played all over. Maybe he has found a home?

I was watching the recording of the Raider game, and there was this one play wheter Nelson pulls right, turns the corner and leave a hole about 2 yards wide for the RB go through. He's going to get better with experience. I can't remember having that kind of guard on the Colts.

YDFL Commish 11-03-2018 11:25 AM

Glowinski has without a doubt begin the biggest surprise to me.

I've gotta admit, I was concerned about RG when Slauson went down, but, Thus far the Glowinski has played as well or better than Slauson was playing.


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