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Racehorse 02-03-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 54128)
If Moncrief weren’t a Colt last year, would he even be on your radar?

No, because if he played like that for any coach but Pagano, we would assume the problem was him. Because we know Pagano cannot coach up anyone, we have to assume DM was held back by inept coaching.

YDFL Commish 02-03-2018 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 54128)
If Moncrief weren’t a Colt last year, would he even be on your radar?

I think Donte is soft, and when (I believe Zac Keefer called him out on that) he acted like a teenager asking for big brother TY's help.

No thanks. Got no time to wait for them to grow up.

VeveJones007 02-03-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 54140)
I think Donte is soft, and when (I believe Zac Keefer called him out on that) he acted like a teenager asking for big brother TY's help.

No thanks. Got no time to wait for them to grow up.

Agree. Does anyone here actually think Ballard would have a favorable opinion of Moncrief after last year?

1965southpaw 02-03-2018 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 54148)
Agree. Does anyone here actually think Ballard would have a favorable opinion of Moncrief after last year?


No, I don't think Ballard thinks very highly of him but I also think there is no market for Donte outside the colts and Ballard has many other priorities. I'm just really on the fence on this one. I just think we don't have a really clear picture of his skills based on injury and crappy scheme. It's really hard to know what part of his crappy performance to hang on him and what part to hang on Pags/Chud. i guess I will be on board with whatever decision Ballard makes since getting a read on his personality (diva, soft, whatever) is best assessed by those who see him day in and day out.

YDFL Commish 02-03-2018 08:37 PM

My take is that Ballard told McDaniel's, that he will not be prioritizing WR this season, and that he wants the coach to have a productive offense with what he's given.

McDaniel's agreed to this, knowing that he didn't need more at WR right now.

As long as he doesn't have to coach Aiken, I don't give a fuck.

FatDT 02-03-2018 09:43 PM

I think the arm chair psychoanalysis of Moncrief is stupid. Let Ballard and McD decide. It's not like he flat out sucks. He's played well, especially with Luck healthy. In a real offense with Luck back he could be a high quality#2 WR for a low price.

Puck 02-03-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 54162)
My take is that Ballard told McDaniel's, that he will not be prioritizing WR this season, and that he wants the coach to have a productive offense with what he's given.

McDaniel's agreed to this, knowing that he didn't need more at WR right now.

As long as he doesn't have to coach Aiken, I don't give a fuck.

Where did you come up with this?

Butter 02-03-2018 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 54128)
If Moncrief weren’t a Colt last year, would he even be on your radar?

Probably not, but he was on the team and a known entity. He will be a cheap depth sign and he has potential. I get why people are down on him, but to entirely write the kid off seems short sighted.

Brylok 02-03-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 54140)
I think Donte is soft, and when (I believe Zac Keefer called him out on that) he acted like a teenager asking for big brother TY's help.

No thanks. Got no time to wait for them to grow up.

Isn't that what players are supposed to do? TY is older than Donte, and better. Marvin was older than Reggie, and better. Don't we want the younger guy leaning on the older, better guy when he needs to?

VeveJones007 02-04-2018 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 54173)
Probably not, but he was on the team and a known entity. He will be a cheap depth sign and he has potential. I get why people are down on him, but to entirely right the kid off seems short sighted.

The team needs a culture change. A big part of that was the coaching staff, but another part was some players checking out at times. Moncrief was a culprit who can be easily replaced with another player. I might stomach it for a guy with high-end upside, but Moncrief is a 2 at best. Fixing the culture is more important than whatever limited upside potential he offers.


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