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VeveJones007 01-31-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 53839)
So alex smith is traded to WAS. That puts cousins on the market which could throw a big wrench in the draft. What if CLE signs cousins and takes barkley or chubb #1. Or he could sign with one of the other possible trade partners taking them out of play

The Browns would be fools to stay at #1 and not take a QB. If they aren't going QB, they will trade out and cash in on the value.

Racehorse 01-31-2018 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 53875)
The Browns would be fools to stay at #1 and not take a QB. If they aren't going QB, they will trade out and cash in on the value.

So, are you saying the Browns are not fools, or are you saying they will screw this up like always?

Butter 01-31-2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 53875)
The Browns would be fools to stay at #1 and not take a QB. If they aren't going QB, they will trade out and cash in on the value.

Yes. I will be beyond shocked if they don't either take a QB with 1 or trade out.

VeveJones007 02-01-2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 53887)
So, are you saying the Browns are not fools, or are you saying they will screw this up like always?

Dorsey is a very good GM. He’ll make a prudent move.

VeveJones007 02-01-2018 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 53910)
Yes. I will be beyond shocked if they don't either take a QB with 1 or trade out.

Same thing with the Giants at 2. Colts will get Chubb at 3 or possibly trade back if someone loves the next QB available and offers a load.

Still, I think Ballard stays put. Matt Miller said on 670am yesterday that there’s a big drop off at EDGE after Chubb. If the Colts don’t address it there, we’re probably looking at another year without much pass rush.

Pez 02-01-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 53910)
Yes. I will be beyond shocked if they don't either take a QB with 1 or trade out.

There's some speculation that they will try to pick up Kirk Cousins in free agency, which would change a whole lot of this dynamic.

Butter 02-01-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 53945)
There's some speculation that they will try to pick up Kirk Cousins in free agency, which would change a whole lot of this dynamic.

It certainly would, but I would be surprised if he signs there if the Donkeys interest in him is legit. Who would willingly go to that dumpster fire if better options are available?

VeveJones007 02-01-2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 53953)
It certainly would, but I would be surprised if he signs there if the Donkeys interest in him is legit. Who would willingly go to that dumpster fire if better options are available?

I can think of a few million reasons.

Racehorse 02-02-2018 12:14 PM

I have been thinking about our odds of trading back and I am not as optimistic of our chances as many on here are. There are three or four QBs coming out that many think could be franchise QBs (Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield and Allen). There is also Jackson, who someone will take a flyer on. There are also seven FA QBs that teams can choose from (Brees, Giraffe, Bradford, McCarron, Keenum, Bridgewater and Cousins).

Here is the list of teams and their QB situation:
Arizona Cardinals NEED
Atlanta Falcons Ryan
Baltimore Ravens Overpaid Flacco
Buffalo Bills LOL
Carolina Panthers Cam
Chicago Bears Trubisky
Cincinnati Bengals Dalton
Cleveland Browns LOL
Dallas Cowboys Dak
Denver Broncos Semen/Lynch/Oopsweiler
Detroit Lions Stafford
Green Bay Packers Rodgers
Houston Texans Watson
Indianapolis Colts Luck/Brissett
Jacksonville Jaguars Bortles
Kansas City Chiefs Mahomes?
Miami Dolphins Tannehill
Minnesota Vikings Bradford/Keenum/Bridgewater (all are FAs!!)
New England Patriots Gaydy
New Orleans Saints Brees (free agent)
New York Giants Eli
New York Jets NEED
Oakland Raiders Carr
Philadelphia Eagles Wentz/Foles
Pittsburgh Steelers Rapist
San Diego Chargers Rivers
San Francisco 49ers Giraffe (free agent, but likely to get tagged/signed)
Seattle Seahawks Wilson
St. Louis Rams Goff
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Winston
Tennessee Titans Mariotta
Washington Redskins NONE

That means we have the Cardinals, Bills, Browns, Jets, Donkeys, and the Foreskins in the market for sure. Minnesota has to re-sign one of their three guys. One could argue that it is time for the Chargers, Giants and Bengals to look for a replacement, and it would not surprise me at all if TB decides Winston is just not good enough to retain. That makes about ten teams in the market, potentially. You would think that Brees and the Giraffe will stay, but if they don't, then you just replace two of the ten teams. The Smith trade took away one potential trade partner because Cousins will fill a void somewhere. We could see Foles and one of the Minny QBs signed or traded which could eliminate two other teams. McCarron may be the heir to Dalton, taking Cincy out of the mix. That would take us to six or seven teams in the market. Maybe Keenum gets a nod if MINN keeps Bradford, lowering it to five teams. Given that CLE and NYG pick before us, that leaves us with just three trade partners in this scenario (Buffalo, NYJ and whoever does not sign Cousins between AZ and DEN). Maybe one of them wants to leapfrog the other, but the odds just don't seem to be there to me.

rcubed 02-02-2018 12:48 PM

Why do you have WAS as none and in the market. They just acquired smith.


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