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YDFL Commish 08-18-2026 05:55 PM

AR has at least proven that he can win games. Riley Leonard has not. AR will be the #2 until, either Leonard shows great improvement, or someone offers us compensation that can help us get a true #2.

ChoppedWood 08-18-2026 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 351733)
My gut and instincts just shout that Steichen has a personal disgust with AR. Part of me understands it, the tap out happened Afterall.

Another part of me recognizes there is a huge conflict from what the media tries to tell everyone about this guy being an offensive genius but who also refuses to employ a unique skillset in a way that can help the team, even in a limited fashion.

Jones is actually athletic too. you could put him out on the perimeter in a bubble screen scenario. he can still be a threat to throw the ball, and if the defense doesn't actually put an athlete out there he can also easily pick up yards.

I find it hard to believe that Sean Payton is the only head coach that can figure shit like this out.

Venturi was on JMV this afternoon just lampooning Steichen for allegedly being this offensive savant but seemingly doesn't / won't take advantage of a very unique weapon that can force defenses to have to adjust their entire planning structure to account for what AR can do when on the field. Went the same place you did- can't be Payton alone that is able to do this, and with a much less athletic player than AR.

albany ed 08-19-2026 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 351755)
Again, no one game plans in preseason. Also, even if he does improve his accuracy, he’s still incredibly brittle.

I don’t know if the organization has given up on him or not, but I’m pretty sure Shane Steichen has.

I’m also pretty sure the only reason he’s still here is because no other team is willing to give up a draft pick for him and the Colts aren’t just going to cut him. Remember, this is the same guy Mike Tomlin was telling his guys not to hurt because he didn’t want Flacco to come in the game.

So, what does that say about Leonards' performance?

sherck 08-19-2026 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 351763)
I’m not pessimistic, I’m realistic.

Says every pessimist in the world.... :)

Kray007 08-19-2026 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 351786)
Venturi was on JMV this afternoon just lampooning Steichen for allegedly being this offensive savant but seemingly doesn't / won't take advantage of a very unique weapon that can force defenses to have to adjust their entire planning structure to account for what AR can do when on the field. Went the same place you did- can't be Payton alone that is able to do this, and with a much less athletic player than AR.

It’s hard to design gadget plays around a one dimensional player, even when that dimension is transcendent. Until AR shows the ability to throw the ball effectively, bringing him in simply signals to the Defense that some kind of Quarterback run is coming up.

ChoppedWood 08-19-2026 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 351841)
It’s hard to design gadget plays around a one dimensional player, even when that dimension is transcendent. Until AR shows the ability to throw the ball effectively, bringing him in simply signals to the Defense that some kind of Quarterback run is coming up.

If so, that's even shittier coaching than not even having plays for him.

ChaosTheory 08-19-2026 08:41 PM

I speculated like everyone else about using AR in a Taysom Hill role before last season.

But if we're outpacing the 2007 Patriots by a mile in points-per-drive like we were for 10 games... fuck me, I'm not burning too many calories second guessing coach.

Mr. Session 08-20-2026 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 351849)
I speculated like everyone else about using AR in a Taysom Hill role before last season.

But if we're outpacing the 2007 Patriots by a mile in points-per-drive like we were for 10 games... fuck me, I'm not burning too many calories second guessing coach.

I still believe there is an argument to be had about this and that it's legitimate.

Jones has proved 100% dependable in one factor for his career, He's going to get hurt.

Reducing his mileage and putting that labor on Richardson in a limited role shouldn't be such a hindrance for this generationally genius play caller we have as a head coach.

ChaosTheory 08-20-2026 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 351865)
I still believe there is an argument to be had about this and that it's legitimate.

Jones has proved 100% dependable in one factor for his career, He's going to get hurt.

Reducing his mileage and putting that labor on Richardson in a limited role shouldn't be such a hindrance for this generationally genius play caller we have as a head coach.

I get it. Again, I know I brought this up early or prior to last season, so it's not like I'm against the idea.

I just strikes me as a myopic avenue to question/criticize Steichen's offensive prowess. Especially if a 10-game sample of off-the-charts efficiency as a play-caller isn't enough to massively outweigh it in comparison.


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