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Chromeburn 02-08-2023 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 259737)
Yeah, maybe Donald Brown because he was a 1st Rounder. He was a decent complimentary RB and could hit the occasional homerun, but that's not what you want to spend a 1st on.

Vick Ballard, though, was a pretty good pick in the 5th round. He looked like he could be our starter going forward until he blew his ACL in 2013 and then his Achilles in 2014. Never could make it back.




That's the balancing act and gamble. RB is the easiest position to replace and we've had a pretty good run bringing in guys. None of them measure up to Taylor, but they also combine for less than what Taylor costs.

Hypothetically... does Zack Moss + Deon Jackson + a rookie + the cap benefit of all three together being 1/4 the potential cost of Jonathan Taylor outweigh the monster production we've seen JT can have + huge cap hit + the risk RB's have of falling off a cliff.

I love JT, but other dudes get paid to do that math (which I butchered above).


To get some yards per carry, sure. You can get average production there. You can do that with any position. Remove a threatening run game and have no passing game to pick up the slack and well, you get the year we just had.

But he is a legit breakaway threat every time he touches the ball. He would be a great compliment if we had a passing game. Safeties would freak out bc they would never be able to take their eyes off him afraid he will burn them. NFL is about mismatches players create.

We should be trying to add the passing game to make it a dual threat offense, not shooting ourselves in the foot because the rest of the league doesn’t value RBs.

Chromeburn 02-08-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 259766)
But we can't keep putting big money in less valuable positions like guard and LB. He is great, but we can get 80% of his production for 10% of the money of his next contract likely.

You build around the pieces you have. You will get some production, but it won’t threaten anything, nor will teams need to gameplan around it. And teams that have success with little run game are teams with franchise QBs. We don’t have one and are not guaranteed to get one.

Getting rid of them just means we will be picking high again soon. Everyone had a meltdown bc we had 4 wins this season. Get rid of them and we are back to a rebuild.

All these afc teams are building like the 2000’s colts. Colts teams who lost a lot of playoff games to more complete built Steeler and pat teams. Eagles are about to decimate the Chiefs tomorrow bc they built a complete team and not one dependent on the QB only.

ChaosTheory 02-08-2023 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259775)
To get some yards per carry, sure. You can get average production there. You can do that with any position. Remove a threatening run game and have no passing game to pick up the slack and well, you get the year we just had.

But he is a legit breakaway threat every time he touches the ball. He would be a great compliment if we had a passing game. Safeties would freak out bc they would never be able to take their eyes off him afraid he will burn them. NFL is about mismatches players create.

I think I tend to agree with you. I think whichever rookie we take (I lean towards Stroud) will take his lumps, but will at the least be able to stretch the field and give Taylor more looks at open field.

In a way, it's fortunate his injury was kind of a freak tackle from behind rather than him seeming to wear down. So he should be healthy going forward.

Colts And Orioles 02-12-2023 05:26 PM

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A final reminder for today's game-thread.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158947

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