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Chromeburn 09-20-2022 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 240342)
Raimann looked good against Travon Walker, which is not a thing many LTs can say. Leno struggled against him the prior week. Raimann at LT and Pryor at RG is the way to plug the holes for now IMO.

Walker is a rookie, but it’s not a negative. Raimann also didn’t pick up one of the stunts that hot Ryan hammered which could be bad awareness and a rookie mistake. I assume they only went over it all week. I guess he is the hope bc Pryor can’t handle speed on the outside. Guess we have to ride the rookie LT train.

Chromeburn 09-20-2022 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 240320)
We wont be sitting players to get a look at younger guys and tanking. We will win enough games to make it painful for ballard to move up to get a new shiny QB. So ballard will trade back and get a "better value" QB in the early second round and we will live in mediocrity.

I’m starting to think Ballard is to pass rushers as Grigson is to oline.

How would that be as an equation?

(Ballard+pass rushers) = (Grigson+offensive linemen)

Ironshaft 09-20-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 240336)
I have to say I'm surprised at this thread, based on who the OP is.

Why?

On one hand, you can say we are 2 games in.

On the other hand, we have gotten rocked in our last four games. Two with the playoffs on the line and two against divisional rivals who may not win another six games this season...combined. In the past three games, we have been outscored like 70-6 in the first three quarters of each game combined.

Some say we were close to winning @Houston. But we got our butts kicked for three quarters of the game regardless of the yardage stats. If they had been almost any other NFL besides one of the weakest, they would have been much further ahead with no chance of a tie.

All indications are that KC is going to throttle us this week. 0-2-1.

Playing TEN in week four may find both us and them looking for their first victory. I don't love our odds against them in that scenario. Our team lacks hunger.

Other than the yardage stats from HOU, what from the last four games would lead you to believe that this team has the ability to right the ship?

IndyNorm 09-20-2022 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 240362)
Walker is a rookie, but it’s not a negative. Raimann also didn’t pick up one of the stunts that hot Ryan hammered which could be bad awareness and a rookie mistake. I assume they only went over it all week. I guess he is the hope bc Pryor can’t handle speed on the outside. Guess we have to ride the rookie LT train.

As Omaha suggested in another thread we could go with Kelly at LT until Raimann is ready.

Chromeburn 09-21-2022 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 240365)
As Omaha suggested in another thread we could go with Kelly at LT until Raimann is ready.

I don’t know if Kelly has what it takes to move outside. Never heard of a center doing that. LTs are unique athletes. The good ones can do that kick slide and get into position. Kelly might be a larger liability than a rookie. I don’t know if there is an easy put with this. Like last year. May just have to ride it out…again.

I feel like this team is just always waiting for some area to develop.

Dam8610 09-21-2022 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 240364)
Why?

On one hand, you can say we are 2 games in.

On the other hand, we have gotten rocked in our last four games. Two with the playoffs on the line and two against divisional rivals who may not win another six games this season...combined. In the past three games, we have been outscored like 70-6 in the first three quarters of each game combined.

Some say we were close to winning @Houston. But we got our butts kicked for three quarters of the game regardless of the yardage stats. If they had been almost any other NFL besides one of the weakest, they would have been much further ahead with no chance of a tie.

All indications are that KC is going to throttle us this week. 0-2-1.

Playing TEN in week four may find both us and them looking for their first victory. I don't love our odds against them in that scenario. Our team lacks hunger.

Other than the yardage stats from HOU, what from the last four games would lead you to believe that this team has the ability to right the ship?

Why are we including the COVID riddled Carson Wentz trash fires at the end of last season in any evaluation of the current team? The Jaguars have former top 10 picks at edge rusher, one who was just the #1 overall pick, and the other who had 10.5 sacks as a rookie. Combine with the Colts top 2 WRs being out, starting a guard at LT, and playcalling that played very much into that matchup being exposed, and it makes sense that Matt Ryan had what will likely be his worst performance of the year.

The biggest thing that leads me to believe the ship can be righted is that we've seen this movie before. Had Wentz not choked it away, last year would have been the second time in 4 seasons under Reich that the Colts made the playoffs after starting 1-4 or worse. The Colts have never been better than 1-1 under Reich after 2 games, but in all but 1 season, they were in playoff contention, and were it not for Carson Wentz being a COVID riddled trash fire in the last 2 games of the season, would've made the playoffs in 3 of 4 years with 4 different starting QBs. Getting off to a slow start every year sucks, and that is definitely something Reich needs to fix, but I'm not willing to believe that Matt Pryor getting exposed against an athlete like Travon Walker and the Colts top 2 receivers being out means that this team is devoid of talent and about to make a run at a Top 5 pick. There's way too much season left to say that at this point.

Dam8610 09-21-2022 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 240376)
I don’t know if Kelly has what it takes to move outside. Never heard of a center doing that. LTs are unique athletes. The good ones can do that kick slide and get into position. Kelly might be a larger liability than a rookie. I don’t know if there is an easy put with this. Like last year. May just have to ride it out…again.

I feel like this team is just always waiting for some area to develop.

He meant Dennis Kelly, and that would only be a marginal upgrade on Pryor. Rookie held up against Walker, give him his shot. He won't do worse than Pryor.

ChaosTheory 09-21-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 240342)
Raimann looked good against Travon Walker, which is not a thing many LTs can say. Leno struggled against him the prior week. Raimann at LT and Pryor at RG is the way to plug the holes for now IMO.

Did you happen to look over the JAX-WAS game? I'm curious how the JAX D-line looked overall. Every time I go back and watch our OL, I feel like their fuck ups jump out to me less and JAX just manhandling them in 1-on-1's jumps out more.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-21-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 240270)

That’s it. Those are the only players in 2023 that would deliver negative cap hit if cut. Every other contract the Colts own would add to the cap space if the player were cut


While I agree that most of the player contracts are written to minimize dead cap hits in later years, I don't think the Colts salary cap situation is as clean as you have indicated.

For instance, after the Colts traded for Matt Ryan, they made two adjustments to his contract. First, as a goodwill gesture, they guaranteed all the remaining money on his deal. Second, they diverted some of the cash flow from 2022 to 2023 to add some more cap space for this last offseason.

Not all of the various contract tracking websites have been fully updated to reflect these changes.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/m...alcons-legend/

omahacolt 09-21-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 240378)
He meant Dennis Kelly, and that would only be a marginal upgrade on Pryor. Rookie held up against Walker, give him his shot. He won't do worse than Pryor.

I don't mind giving Raimann a shot now. but Kelly is an option and probably an upgrade to pryor.


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