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GoBigBlue88 12-10-2017 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 45544)
Come on man.... we all know you dont like him and thats fair but he didn't get outplayed by Webb. The TY pass was more than catchable. TY took his eyes off the ball and knew it was his fault. Wasn't the greatest weather to be trying to make many throws .... just sayin....He made a great play fake on the 2 put conversion and threw a good pass. He actually threw a TD pass Webb did not.
Webb was 2 of 6 for 35 yards and an INT. BTW his one pass at the end of the game was for 34 yards. So he passed for 1 yard besides that.

Brissett actually did a few nice things today. He was only sacked once because he got rid of the ball instead of holding it. The one sack is because he did hold it too long. His read option plays were good and I will give credit to Chud for calling them today. One of the better game planes Chud has called in a long long time.

Brissett may not be a starting QB yet but you are way too hard on him. I think he has a lot of talent and could be very good with a better scheme and of course better coaching.
Wait, so you're putting it on Hilton that Brissett threw a pass 3 yards behind Hilton? A pass that probably goes for 20+ if he leads his receiver?

Brissett is bad, dude. Sample size of throws has proven it.

Puck 12-10-2017 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 45558)
Wait, so you're putting it on Hilton that Brissett threw a pass 3 yards behind Hilton? A pass that probably goes for 20+ if he leads his receiver?

Brissett is bad, dude. Sample size of throws has proven it.
You're picking that one pass that was behind him but catchable in horrible weather as a reason to come down on him this hard?

Why are you bashing him anyway? You have found a problem in your mind.... what is your solution to this problem? Would you rather have Tolzein? Who else would you put in there?

Puck 12-10-2017 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 45557)
I doubt it. Not sure why you are so confident he could be
I'm not sure what you give him a hard time. Would you rather have Tolzien?

Racehorse 12-10-2017 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 45574)
You're picking that one pass that was behind him but catchable in horrible weather as a reason to come down on him this hard?

Why are you bashing him anyway? You have found a problem in your mind.... what is your solution to this problem? Would you rather have Tolzein? Who else would you put in there?
He's black

GoBigBlue88 12-10-2017 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 45574)
You're picking that one pass that was behind him but catchable in horrible weather as a reason to come down on him this hard?

Why are you bashing him anyway? You have found a problem in your mind.... what is your solution to this problem? Would you rather have Tolzein? Who else would you put in there?
I'm bashing him because he's the biggest reason Colts have lost last 2 games.

No, Tolzien isn't a better option. Brissett is the option that lets you lose by the least. Doesn't mean he's not a liability.

Maniac 12-10-2017 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 45577)
I'm bashing him because he's the biggest reason Colts have lost last 2 games.

No, Tolzien isn't a better option. Brissett is the option that lets you lose by the least. Doesn't mean he's not a liability.
How much blame do you put on the coaching staff for not putting him in better situations?

Yes, he misses some throws and holds the ball too long at times. He's a 3rd string QB that was forced into the starting role on a bad team with a bad offensive line and a horrible coaching staff.

He needs to develop and these coaches are not helping him do that. They are making it harder for him to do so.

Puck 12-10-2017 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 45577)
I'm bashing him because he's the biggest reason Colts have lost last 2 games.

No, Tolzien isn't a better option. Brissett is the option that lets you lose by the least. Doesn't mean he's not a liability.
How about Vinny hits a FG and we win.... he missed 2 today.... . How about the fact that the Colts were down in the 4th quarter and he brought them back with a very good drive and a TD pass to tie it.... How about a terrible OPI call on the 2pt conversion that would have won the game?

This game was not at all on Brissett. Not at all. Did he make some bad plays? Sure... but there were plenty of bad plays out there.

You dont like him we get it. Not sure why you get so wound up about it .... he's easily the best option we have.

Butter 12-10-2017 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 45579)
How about Vinny hits a FG and we win.... he missed 2 today.... . How about the fact that the Colts were down in the 4th quarter and he brought them back with a very good drive and a TD pass to tie it.... How about a terrible OPI call on the 2pt conversion that would have won the game?

This game was not at all on Brissett. Not at all. Did he make some bad plays? Sure... but there were plenty of bad plays out there.

You dont like him we get it. Not sure why you get so wound up about it .... he's easily the best option we have.
To be fair some of it is on Brisset, but there is plenty of blame to go around.

Puck 12-10-2017 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 45580)
To be fair some of it is on Brisset, but there is plenty of blame to go around.

How many mistakes do you remember? the pass behind TY that he still had in his hand... OK.... if that's the worst he did then fine....

Yea he doesnt see the whole field, but Ill be honest... I think maybe that is how he is being coached... Call the play and you have 2 reads.... then he has to run... He doesnt have time to go through the entire progression

He didn't turn the ball over, he was only sacked one time when he got caught from behind ....on a long developing play with no open receivers....


Is he a franchise QB? No but getting this upset over a back up QB is ridiculous

Colt Classic 12-10-2017 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 45545)
Brissett will never be really good. He is too indecisive to be successful. Misses way too many plays.
Manning was indecisive his first year as a starter. Remember fans calling him "happy feet Manning"? Manning left plays on the field too.

Obviously, Brissett isn't projected to have anywhere near that level of success ultimately, but to say he'll never be anything beyond a journeyman backup is selling him short. He seems driven and that he cares enough to be successful, rather than just happy to be on an NFL roster. I think learning from a good coaching staff, running an offense that plays to his strengths, and given better receivers than Moncrief, Aiken, or some clown wearing number 43 would all lead to him being a legit starting-caliber quarterback. Getting rid of the ball and getting though his progressions are growing pains of most rookie QB's.


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