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Oldcolt 03-28-2022 08:06 AM

I don't get why you think Bell is athletic. He is slower than Strachan, Patmon and Paschal (who is a good 3rd or 4th receiver because he is so slow). Stachan has a better shuffle, cone, 40 yard dash, high jump and is 3 inches taller. At that he was a 7th round choice and is a long shot to do anything. Ballard loves him his measurables. I grant you that measurables are not everything, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71-but who besides Jerry Rice can compete on that level with that 40 time. Maybe his non measurables are off the charts and he is another Steve Largent (4.7-4.9). I admit I don't follow college football and appreciate the expertise here. I'll be interested in where he goes in the draft.

rm1369 03-28-2022 08:57 AM

Campbell RAS - 9.76
Strachan RAS - 9.22
Patmon RAS - 8.44
Pittman RAS - 8.24
Pascal RAS - 8.18
Fountain RAS - 8.01
Cain RAS - 6.48
Bell RAS - 2.72

You can argue that Bell is a playmaker regardless of his athletic ability, but he definitely doesn’t fit the mold for what Ballard tends to draft.

MeSayDayo 03-28-2022 10:06 AM

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2022/...ants-nfl-2022/

Would you all be into us trading with the Giants for James Bradberry? Personally, he wasn't a guy that was really on my radar but must fit Gus Bradley's D like a glove for them to pursue him in particular.

I wonder what kind of trade value he would garner? I sure hope we don't give up any more picks, and would prefer a straight up player for player trade ala RYS and YN.
Who becomes expendable and preferable to the Giants at this point? Perhaps Blackmon/Willis? Kelly? Hines? (doubtful) but who can know? We know CB loves them picks....

apballin 03-28-2022 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 227628)
I don't get why you think Bell is athletic. He is slower than Strachan, Patmon and Paschal (who is a good 3rd or 4th receiver because he is so slow). Stachan has a better shuffle, cone, 40 yard dash, high jump and is 3 inches taller. At that he was a 7th round choice and is a long shot to do anything. Ballard loves him his measurables. I grant you that measurables are not everything, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71-but who besides Jerry Rice can compete on that level with that 40 time. Maybe his non measurables are off the charts and he is another Steve Largent (4.7-4.9). I admit I don't follow college football and appreciate the expertise here. I'll be interested in where he goes in the draft.

He has been productive all 3 years in college and plays his best in the biggest games (11-240) at #2 Iowa he dominated the game. His combine numbers didn’t match his 3 year production = 232 catches 2946 yards 21 TD 11 games over 100 yards

Purdue played 3 ranked teams this year Bell had:
@OSU 11-103
MSU 11-217-1TD
Iowa. 11-240-1TD

He missed 1 game in 3 years

Discflinger 03-28-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 227640)
https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2022/...ants-nfl-2022/

Would you all be into us trading with the Giants for James Bradberry? Personally, he wasn't a guy that was really on my radar but must fit Gus Bradley's D like a glove for them to pursue him in particular.

I wonder what kind of trade value he would garner? I sure hope we don't give up any more picks, and would prefer a straight up player for player trade ala RYS and YN.
Who becomes expendable and preferable to the Giants at this point? Perhaps Blackmon/Willis? Kelly? Hines? (doubtful) but who can know? We know CB loves them picks....

His base salary is around 13 but I read that he would count around 21 against the cap. Apparently the Giants may be willing to eat some of that, but even so, seems like a big gamble to expect a guy to elevate his play enough to be worth it. What happened with Rhodes can’t be the expectation.

Chromeburn 03-28-2022 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 227618)
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...r/_/id/4570409

He makes plays. He plays big in big games

Lots of college players do. He might still be good. Cooper Kupp ran a slow 40. But with athleticism that bad, things are stacked against him.

ChaosTheory 03-28-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 227631)
Campbell RAS - 9.76
Strachan RAS - 9.22
Patmon RAS - 8.44
Pittman RAS - 8.24
Pascal RAS - 8.18
Fountain RAS - 8.01
Cain RAS - 6.48
Bell RAS - 2.72

You can argue that Bell is a playmaker regardless of his athletic ability, but he definitely doesn’t fit the mold for what Ballard tends to draft.

Goddamn it, Parris. Quit breaking yourself. I'd like to see what a full season looks like.

Brylok 03-28-2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 227671)
Goddamn it, Parris. Quit breaking yourself. I'd like to see what a full season looks like.

We've all been saying that for years. I don't think Plaster of Parris has a chance. Hope I'm wrong.

JAFF 03-28-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 227628)
I don't get why you think Bell is athletic. He is slower than Strachan, Patmon and Paschal (who is a good 3rd or 4th receiver because he is so slow). Stachan has a better shuffle, cone, 40 yard dash, high jump and is 3 inches taller. At that he was a 7th round choice and is a long shot to do anything. Ballard loves him his measurables. I grant you that measurables are not everything, Jerry Rice ran a 4.71-but who besides Jerry Rice can compete on that level with that 40 time. Maybe his non measurables are off the charts and he is another Steve Largent (4.7-4.9). I admit I don't follow college football and appreciate the expertise here. I'll be interested in where he goes in the draft.

He doesnt play slow

Puck 03-28-2022 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 227671)
Goddamn it, Parris. Quit breaking yourself. I'd like to see what a full season looks like.

Patmon. Hmmmm. maybe he can do it


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