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Dam8610 01-31-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 108626)
I really liked Glowinski's play for us in 2018 and am glad he is back for the next three seasons at a very attractive rate.

I will love to see what our "Fav Five" can do with a full offseason and Training Camp playing alongside each other. They could do rare things together.

Also, throw in Clark, Haeg, a mid/late round rookie and perhaps Boehm as quality depth and we are cooking on oil with the O-Line.

2020 = Castonzo UDFA (age 32)
2021 = Ryan Kelly UDFA (age 28)
2022 = Braden Smith UDFA (age 26), Mark Glowinski UDFA (age 30)
2023 = Quinton Nelson UDFA assuming we used 5th year option in 2022 (age 27)

Realisticly, our line could stay intact for 2020 / 2021 / 2022 but by then, Castonzo will probably need replaced and the team may not be able to re-sign both Smith and Glowinski in the same off season.

Enjoy the ride on O-Line Colts fans; it will hopefully be great for the next couple of years.

Walk Worthy

This is why getting the defense fixed this offseason is high priority. They're going to need to make investments in the OL again likely starting next year. Can't be stuck on needing a pass rusher at that point.

omahacolt 01-31-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 108627)
So if I suggest you work really hard at being a wanker, its ok because its accurrate

I don’t work hard at it at all. So it is not accurate

sherck 01-31-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 108634)
Not a big deal but the acronym UDFA usually stands for "undrafted free agent", does it not? Unrestricted free agent is usually UFA.

I have a feeling we could spend a higher pick than many expect on a center or center/guard prospect. Kelly is a top center when he is able to play, but he hasn't completed a single season without missing time with injury. He's the undisputed starter, but injuries like that pile up. If the right player comes along I could see Ballard using a 3rd on the future starting center.

Good catch! UFA is what I meant to type.

I agree. I think Clark has the possibility of being a starting OT on the Colts if he continues to progress. His progess from years 1 & 2 to last year (year 3) was impressive. New scheme, new coaches, new whatever had him play pretty solid in his spot duty.

But Haeg, whom I used to be super high on, appears to have a max cap of "good 6th man" and not of a starter. A young, quality depth guy for OC/OG would be welcome on the team.

OTs = Castonzo, Smith, Clark
OGs = Nelson, Glowinski, Rookie
OCs = Kelly, Rookie
5 Positional Quality Depth = Haeg
3 Positional Depth (OG/OC/OG) = Someone
(Note, the rookie depth at OG and OC is the same guy)


That is a great looking depth chart for 2019.

Walk Worthy,

Chromeburn 01-31-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 108626)
I really liked Glowinski's play for us in 2018 and am glad he is back for the next three seasons at a very attractive rate.

I will love to see what our "Fav Five" can do with a full offseason and Training Camp playing alongside each other. They could do rare things together.

Also, throw in Clark, Haeg, a mid/late round rookie and perhaps Boehm as quality depth and we are cooking on oil with the O-Line.

2020 = Castonzo UDFA (age 32)
2021 = Ryan Kelly UDFA (age 28)
2022 = Braden Smith UDFA (age 26), Mark Glowinski UDFA (age 30)
2023 = Quinton Nelson UDFA assuming we used 5th year option in 2022 (age 27)

Realisticly, our line could stay intact for 2020 / 2021 / 2022 but by then, Castonzo will probably need replaced and the team may not be able to re-sign both Smith and Glowinski in the same off season.

Enjoy the ride on O-Line Colts fans; it will hopefully be great for the next couple of years.

Walk Worthy

Hypothetical question for you, well everyone really. Say one of the good tackles in the draft falls to our pick, maybe early second. Do you draft him? Anticipating castonzo’s contracy is up next year.

If you want a tackle, this is a good year to grab one.

And Ballard has said repeatedly he likes 10 guys on the roster for oline at all times.

JAFF 01-31-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 108641)
I don’t work hard at it at all. So it is not accurate

Here's the problem. You are a wanker. And the worst kind. Like a diva. They are diva's but they don't think they are. You ARE A WANKER (polite way of saying DICK) and you don't think you are.

Being a human being isn't so bad. Try it, you might like it

JAFF 01-31-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 108634)
Not a big deal but the acronym UDFA usually stands for "undrafted free agent", does it not? Unrestricted free agent is usually UFA.

I have a feeling we could spend a higher pick than many expect on a center or center/guard prospect. Kelly is a top center when he is able to play, but he hasn't completed a single season without missing time with injury. He's the undisputed starter, but injuries like that pile up. If the right player comes along I could see Ballard using a 3rd on the future starting center.

What's wrong with Kelly?

Dam8610 01-31-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 108655)
Hypothetical question for you, well everyone really. Say one of the good tackles in the draft falls to our pick, maybe early second. Do you draft him? Anticipating castonzo’s contracy is up next year.

If you want a tackle, this is a good year to grab one.

And Ballard has said repeatedly he likes 10 guys on the roster for oline at all times.

I'd be more okay with that than wasting one of the top 60 picks on a WR or CB as I've seen in so many mock drafts.

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 108673)
What's wrong with Kelly?

He's injured too often.

omahacolt 01-31-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 108655)
Hypothetical question for you, well everyone really. Say one of the good tackles in the draft falls to our pick, maybe early second. Do you draft him? Anticipating castonzo’s contracy is up next year.

If you want a tackle, this is a good year to grab one.

And Ballard has said repeatedly he likes 10 guys on the roster for oline at all times.

If you think he has is a starting caliber tackle then I am good with it.

omahacolt 01-31-2019 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 108672)
Here's the problem. You are a wanker. And the worst kind. Like a diva. They are diva's but they don't think they are. You ARE A WANKER (polite way of saying DICK) and you don't think you are.

Being a human being isn't so bad. Try it, you might like it

Nobody was even talking to you and you start calling me a wanker. That is exactly what a wanker would do. And who says wanker? Just say dick.

Feel free to make some good posts from time to time instead of trying to pick fights with me.

JAFF 01-31-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 108681)
Nobody was even talking to you and you start calling me a wanker. That is exactly what a wanker would do. And who says wanker? Just say dick.

Feel free to make some good posts from time to time instead of trying to pick fights with me.

You are right. I'm so sorry. Never mind. I got crazy thinking you didn't know you just were being rude to someone. You know and you don't CARE.

You win.

PS It's a posting board, so EVERYONE saw it. I didn't think I was suppose to think it was private. Damn the internet, I just don't get it.

omahacolt 01-31-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 108682)
You are right. I'm so sorry. Never mind. I got crazy thinking you didn't know you just were being rude to someone. You know and you don't CARE.

You win.

PS It's a posting board, so EVERYONE saw it. I didn't think I was suppose to think it was private. Damn the internet, I just don't get it.

Yeah. I don’t care. Glad you figured it out.

smitty46953 01-31-2019 06:24 PM

You two need to get a room :rolleyes:

JAFF 01-31-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 108688)
You two need to get a room :rolleyes:

My apologies.

Butter 01-31-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 108655)
Hypothetical question for you, well everyone really. Say one of the good tackles in the draft falls to our pick, maybe early second. Do you draft him? Anticipating castonzo’s contracy is up next year.

If you want a tackle, this is a good year to grab one.

And Ballard has said repeatedly he likes 10 guys on the roster for oline at all times.

Yes, unless it means passing on a high-quality pass rusher.

Chromeburn 01-31-2019 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 108698)
Yes, unless it means passing on a high-quality pass rusher.

We should get another pass rusher in our top three picks I bet. This draft aligns nicely with our needs. I’m just wondering what they will try in FA and if any good players actually make it there. I’m hoping Grady Jarret does and we try to sign him. I doubt the best pass rushers will make it though.

Dam8610 02-01-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 108700)
We should get another pass rusher in our top three picks I bet. This draft aligns nicely with our needs. I’m just wondering what they will try in FA and if any good players actually make it there. I’m hoping Grady Jarret does and we try to sign him. I doubt the best pass rushers will make it though.

The ideal scenario to me would be Grady Jarrett, Frank Clark, and Dee Ford all hitting free agency and the Colts signing all of them. Ford will be entering his age 28 season while Clark and Jarrett will be entering their age 26 seasons. This would eliminate DL as a need, which is good since it appears all the DL talent in this draft is slated to go top 15. Those signings would allow the Colts to, for example, go Johnathan Abram, Terrill Hanks, Trayvon Mullen in the top 60 picks. That would be a very solid, talented group to acquire, but as of now, completely ignores the team's biggest need, which is improved DL play. Signing those three, however, would put the Colts squarely into BPA mode, as that would eliminate the Colts only glaring need.

Oldcolt 02-01-2019 11:40 AM

This offensive line is the backbone of our team. Keep adding to it. Even if we use high draft choices this past season showed what a dominant offline means. Looking at who we are going to sign from our team in the next few years I don’t want to overpay for whatever pass rusher is available. Build from within is something I’m coming around to. There are exceptionsof course if I’m a young player and my team is keeping cap open to pay me when My contact ends I think that not only sends the right signal it has to help the culture of the team develop correctly. I hope we ‘lose’ in free agency again (by lose I mean no to the big names. We ‘lost’ free agency before last season but I would argue after the season was said and done we actually won it.

Chromeburn 02-01-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 108728)
The ideal scenario to me would be Grady Jarrett, Frank Clark, and Dee Ford all hitting free agency and the Colts signing all of them. Ford will be entering his age 28 season while Clark and Jarrett will be entering their age 26 seasons. This would eliminate DL as a need, which is good since it appears all the DL talent in this draft is slated to go top 15. Those signings would allow the Colts to, for example, go Johnathan Abram, Terrill Hanks, Trayvon Mullen in the top 60 picks. That would be a very solid, talented group to acquire, but as of now, completely ignores the team's biggest need, which is improved DL play. Signing those three, however, would put the Colts squarely into BPA mode, as that would eliminate the Colts only glaring need.

That's a lot of dline signing. I don't know if I see that. That would be around 60 million give or take. I wouldn't be opposed to it, although Dee Ford does have that injury history and showing up in a contract year.

What about Dante Fowler or Sheldan Richardson? I am hoping they go after Landon Collins, I think he would fit perfectly with Hooker and would provide a nice Tandem. I do like Abram, but I would like more vet presence back there.

There was some under the radar pass rusher that was buried on a deep team and I can't remember his name, trying to find it. Basically an Autry type player.

Chromeburn 02-01-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 108730)
This offensive line is the backbone of our team. Keep adding to it. Even if we use high draft choices this past season showed what a dominant offline means. Looking at who we are going to sign from our team in the next few years I don’t want to overpay for whatever pass rusher is available. Build from within is something I’m coming around to. There are exceptionsof course if I’m a young player and my team is keeping cap open to pay me when My contact ends I think that not only sends the right signal it has to help the culture of the team develop correctly. I hope we ‘lose’ in free agency again (by lose I mean no to the big names. We ‘lost’ free agency before last season but I would argue after the season was said and done we actually won it.

I'm fine with continuing to add to oline. But I don't want to use a pick that we could find a starter at somewhere else for just depth purposes. Unless it is Constonzo's replacement and they don't want to resign him again.

Dam8610 02-01-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 108747)
That's a lot of dline signing. I don't know if I see that. That would be around 60 million give or take. I wouldn't be opposed to it, although Dee Ford does have that injury history and showing up in a contract year.

What about Dante Fowler or Sheldan Richardson? I am hoping they go after Landon Collins, I think he would fit perfectly with Hooker and would provide a nice Tandem. I do like Abram, but I would like more vet presence back there.

There was some under the radar pass rusher that was buried on a deep team and I can't remember his name, trying to find it. Basically an Autry type player.

Shaq Barrett and Shane Ray meet that description. I also wouldn't mind taking a flier on converting Anthony Barr to DE.


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