Oh, I know that he has his limitations and probably doesn't have much upside / potential left to unlock. Just pointing out that there were no WR's drafted immediately after him that have really stood out either.

Wonder if Joel's source is ColtFreaks :cool:

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...23790725333406

I know there is a lot of angst about the current roster, but I live close enough to get Nashville sports radio. They are freaking out about the fact they have NO backup center right now. They are freaking out about players not released, and players that were released.

It seems every team has people who jump off proverbial cliffs like we do.

Down to 3 fucking WR's on the roster, 3 after the McKenzie release.

Swear to God Ballard HATES receivers. One of them must have banged his wife or some shit and he can't help but see this as his way of getting even. This dude is sooooooooo fucking out of touch with modern day NFL offense.

Starting QB has 15 fucking games under his belt, his most dangerous weapon is shelved due to contract shit, and now your offense has 3 fucking WR's at present... FUCK BALLARD!

If we don't sign someone of note and instead we use a guy like Rogers as the 4th....

Seriously, the door is that way -------------->

Exactly what Irsay should have said to him.

It was mentioned in the Waiver Claim thread that McKenzie is already back as the WR4.

The Colts had planned on placing Jelani Woods on IR but that move couldn't be made until 4PM Eastern whereas the waiver claims occurred earlier in the day.

So they needed a roster spot for a few hours until they could move Woods to IR.

Thanks, I just read that a few mins ago. I heard about the McKenzie cut while driving from an event and about shit myself. While not the 2nd coming of Marv or Reg, he's clearly more developed than a bunch of the other dudes we put on PS so I was stunned by it.

I’d pump the brakes a little. He hasn’t even played a down of his second season. And also you can’t forget the context of they fired the O coordinator and head coach. The system took a nosedive in creativity. A nobody was calling plays and Saturday was the head coach. He’s actually had some good buzz this training camp.

I wonder if in these McKenzie like situations if the player benefits at all. If I was McKenzie I would have been: "yeah I'll re-sign with you for a ~20% bump."

Too much minute by minute info makes fans hysterical

Meanwhile in New England

- Only carrying ONE Quarterback (Mac Jones

- Only carrying TWO Running Backs (Zeke & Rhamondre)

- Only carrying TWO Tight Ends (Henry & Gesicki)

It would seem with 7 Wide Receivers, 5 Safeties, and 7 Cornerbacks So position battles still occurring.


And then at the eagles

- The Eagles are carrying only FOUR wide receivers - AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Quez Watkins, and Olamide Zaccheaus.

That's fair. He has looked like shit in the preseason games though. Hopefully it doesn't mean anything when the actual games start.

Had a couple drops, had done other interference.
I think mainly he’s played the deep threat and they’re trying to connect with him and everyone knows it’s coming. Low percentage passes. Wr is one of the toughest positions to learn and play in the nfl. Gotta be patient with most guys.

Not just the drops. He's not getting any separation at all either. Even against 2nd and 3rd stringers in the Philly game.

Might need to improve his route running then. See how he does in his second season.

meh, we also had shit QB play and shit pass protection, so the entire passing offense was crap, I wouldn't get too dramatic about Pierce's numbers being about his own limitations.

Reggie Wayne's first three seasons (with Peyton Manning):

345yds, 0td
716yds, 4td
838yds, 7td

Steadily improved, didn't have his breakout until year-4. Give the kid time. Whether he's a bust or a gem, he's not going to show you right away.

Reggie is usually my fallback example, but I’m sure he knows that. Everyone was declaring him a bust after year two I think.

things have changed some since then. wr's are much better prepared for the nfl nowadays then back then

Well, that's true in that there are more Randy Moss-esque cases of a rookie coming in playing well right away. But there are still plenty of WR's that require time before they flourish.

Davante Adams is a more recent, post-2011 boom example:

446yds, 3tds
483yds, 1td
997yds, 12td
885yds, 10td

Slow first two years, broke out in year-3, still didn't crack 1000yds til year-5 when he became a consistent 1300-1500yd guy. Doesn't mean Pierce will become that good, just means we might not know for the first few years.

I am not in that camp. Reggie's growth was somewhat stunted by the 2002 signing of Qadry Ismail. Reggie was clearly outplaying Ismail but was not getting the playing time. Also I believe he suffered a foot injury in his rookie season that somewhat kept him back.

Yeah, Reggie had some injuries his rookie year. Think he got a high ankle sprain in training camp and then something else later in the year. And as you pointed out he was sharing reps w/ Ismail his 2nd year (although he had a pretty good year stats-wise). I would consider his '03 season his "breakout" year even though he didn't get to 1,000 yards until '04. But the league was nowhere near as pass happy back then.

I'm probably being too harsh on Pierce. Just saw in the preseason games that he wasn't getting any separation and has had some bad drops, which makes me think he hasn't improved since last year. But it's a small sample size, so hopefully he shows improvement when the games start to count.

yeah i understand that some guys will still take a bit. just saying that it isn't the norm as it was back in the day. i mean most players get better after a few years in the league if they are worth being in the league