This is the most moronic post I have ever read. What the fuck are you even talking about? Dumb shit

Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning on the big stage?

How dumb do you have to be not to understand that?

You confuse "better" with "cheats more".

Maybe the madden curse will strike this year

Except he isn't

Holy fuck dude. Have you been brainwashed by Espn? Tom Brady's aura? What is that?

Put manning on the pats and they probably win 8 Super Bowls or more.

Tom Brady's aura. Haha wtf

Tom Brady from the last few seasons might be almost as good as Manning was for his entire career. Cheating or not he's a very good QB. But he took a long time to get there and has had exponentially better coaching and a much better supporting cast. I can't believe I am having this conversation in 2017 with a long-time Colts fan.

I would add lucky too. If the Falcons and Seahawks weren't such dumb fucks, Brady at best would only be 2-5 instead of 5-2. I don't count the Pats win over the Rams because that was the start of their cheating ways.

Stop it.

Brady could literally win two more superbowls and Colt fans would still say Manning was the better Qb when it took two great post-season defensive runs/team to get Manning his rings.

Again, when it comes to clutch... Brady has the come back drives and rings to prove it. Meanwhile as a Colts fan, I know how mediocre Manning was in the 2007 post season, and I saw the Broncos' defense literally carry Manning to a Superbowl.

So, clutch doesn't count for anything?

I understand where you're coming from.

But Brady is not a fair comparison. Manning never enjoyed the consistent supporting cast that Brady did. Manning had some offensive weapons but I never felt Manning's teams had more talent in relation to New England. Brady has had one head coach his entire career. That coach also happens to be the best to ever do it. I know he cheats, I'm done crying about it because it's evident nobody really gives a shit.

Brady proved to me he had a dick and balls when they lost that game to Denver in the conference championship. Ware/Miller and everyone else on that Denver defense kicked the dog shit out of Brady in ways I really don't think Manning could have handled.

But Manning has won two superbowls with two different teams, and appeared in four. And I just don't think Brady does that. I think FatDT is right in the suggestion that perhaps now Brady is as good of a pure quarterback as Manning was his entire career, but if anything that illustrates how incredible Manning was for this Franchise. The success of the colts literally started and stopped with Manning, New England should have gone to the playoffs with Matt Castle's 11-5 record, the year Brady's knee folded.

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When Peyton Manning missed the entire 2011 season due to injury, the Colts lost their first 13 games of the season, and went 2-14 overall.

When Tom Brady missed the entire 2008 season, the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at quarterback, and only missed the postseason because of a tiebreaker. In fact, they were only the second team ever to go 11-5 and miss the postseason (the 1985 Denver Broncos being the other) since the inaugural 16-game schedule season in 1978.


Terry Bradshaw was a very good quarterback, and he excelled in the postseason (particularly in bad-weather games.) And I believe that he is rightfully a member of the Hall-of-Fame. However, his being 4-0 in the Super Bowl as a starting quarterback (including two Super Bowl MVP awards) does not necessarily mean that he was a better quarterback than was Dan Marino, whose team was blown out by the 49ers by a score of 38-16 in the only Super Bowl that he ever reached.


Yes, Brady has made it to 7 Super Bowls, winning 5 of them. That doesn't necessarily doesn't make him a better quarterback than Peyton Manning, any more than Terry Bradshaw's 2 Super Bowl MVP's and 4 Super Bowl titles necessarily make him a better quarterback than Dan Marino.


Bart Stahr won 5 world championships also, but I don't think that that necessarily means that he was a better quarterback than John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Drew Brees, or Roger Staubach all were, either.


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If luck is where preparation meets opportunity, then clutch is where failure meets luck. "Clutch" has been proven a myth time and time again statistically.

Also, Brady has yet to win a Super Bowl legitimately.

Stop doing mental gymnastics Damn.

We've all seen the opposite of "clutch" throughout the many sports where guys completely choke in crunch time. The Finals, World Series, NFL postseason etc.

If your argument is trying to dismantle the very notion of the term clutch to discredit Brady then 1. Your argument is terrible and 2. you're practically admitting he is clutch, but because Brady is clutch that somehow the "clutch" characteristic is a myth.

So clutch he lost to manning in what 3 of the 4 afc championship games?

It's not "mental gymnastics", it's math and science. Google "clutch myth statistics" and see what comes up.

She really, really wants him to retire. Perhaps putting the concussion stuff out there will speed up the process. Hopefully this will be his last year.

when is belichick going to retire? Thats what I am waiting for.

The pessimist in me thinks he will just go to the front office and let one of his minions handle the day to day coaching stuff and not much will change.

Heading out for the first week of lake season. Fuck the Pats.

look motherfucker


how did tom brady get his reputation? off adam vinitieris foot and cheating. he throws 3 yard passes and lets his guys make the plays. he is a fucking game manager. he always has a very solid to great defense and a good running game. his protection has been stellar throughout his career

if you want to actually look at football, and take away the moronic shit you hear on espn or read on espn or whatever else you look at, there has never been a better qb than manning. and we all know i wasn't his biggest fan.

anyone who has watched the game for the last 20 years and doesn't say manning isn't the best qb they have seen is

1) a liar
2) stupid
3) has no idea about the sport other than a superficial glance at it on sundays

even the stat i pointed out is retarded. but yet most people will eat it up. manning is something like 3 of 4 against brady in championship games. they don't play each other. yet morons will lap that dumbass stat up like it is covered in gravy.

rex ryan said it best. and i will paraphrase. it wasn't if manning would figure you out, it was when. nobody knew the game like manning. and you factor in what he did and compare it to brady? it isn't even close.

brady is a figment of espn's imagination. an east coast bias. strip away all the fucking nonsense you have heard from talk radio or tv and make the case for brady. i fucking dare you

looks like Puck got a 2nd username

The pats won what? 3-4 when Brady was out last season. They went to the playoffs with Matt Cassel. You try to swap a replacement in for Manning and that team wouldn't win anything. The titles are nice, but it was Belichick vs Manning, not Brady vs Manning.

Belicheat and Brady are both cheaters that don't deserve mention in the same breath as Manning.

They had a good record with Cassel, but they didn't make the playoffs that year. But I agree, it's BB much more than it is Brady. But both will go down as GOATs.

Well I'm certain Brady goes down on goats.