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Dam8610 10-09-2018 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 85022)
Yes they are fine as backups but we have 3 total stating quality players on this oline... AC Nelson and Kelly. ( Slauson was also) Everyone else is a back up. When you have injuries to those 3 it makes everything worse. We need a starting RT as soon as possible and move Smith to guard.

We need to draft a starting LT in the draft next yr or find one in FA. Then let them compete with AC as to who plays left and who plays right and in the event AC needs replaced.... its covered


After that its CB's with better coverage we would have even more sacks
Braden Smith has played well in the playing time he's been given. He's been the best RT the Colts have had this year, which is out of 4 or 5 guys who have played the position. You worry too much about the OL. Especially in a quick release offense, it's fine.

Oldcolt 10-09-2018 10:20 AM
Our number one need is a wide receiver who can get open and hold on to the ball

1965southpaw 10-09-2018 10:36 AM
Big Joe is reporting that Slauson has a "serious neck injury" that occurred during the last game. He returned and played through it but he's speculating that he's done for the rest of the year.

Puck 10-09-2018 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 85030)
Big Joe is reporting that Slauson has a "serious neck injury" that occurred during the last game. He returned and played through it but he's speculating that he's done for the rest of the year.
Which probably means hes done as a Colt. It was a one yr deal I believe.


Hopefully Good is back this week as well as AC then move Smith to his natural guard position and possible we can beat the Jets

omahacolt 10-09-2018 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 85028)
Braden Smith has played well in the playing time he's been given. He's been the best RT the Colts have had this year, which is out of 4 or 5 guys who have played the position. You worry too much about the OL. Especially in a quick release offense, it's fine.
Smith played against the pats. They don’t have very good ends. Probably be wise to hold off on speaking on how good he is at rt

Dam8610 10-09-2018 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 85046)
Smith played against the pats. They don’t have very good ends. Probably be wise to hold off on speaking on how good he is at rt
Of the bunch that has played RT, he looked best in his limited time. Also, Puck worries way too much about OL.

Chromeburn 10-09-2018 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 84964)
What is a bigger need?
I think the oline has been properly addressed for once. Now those guys need to grow and play together. The only position I would take is a new franchise LT if one is there. Simply bc those guys usually go high, and you don’t often have a shot at one, so you take it if you can. But stampede blue just did a breakdown of Braden Smith and he shows a lot of growth and promise so far. Protection is starting to get better. They just need to get healthy and we just faced three of the best dlines in the league.

Other positions that need addressing: DE, 3-tech, CB, WO, RB/WO. That lack of WO depth and quality is really showing with Hilton out.

Chromeburn 10-09-2018 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 84973)
Will Caroll was on I think it was JMV last week talking about this. He said this is a very hot topic within the org. He said that though there have been some changes recently (I think it was the long time doctor that was fired last year?) there are still some couple decade folks in that department that really need to be sent packing.

I didn't know this until today, but apparently Rosevelt Colvin made some kind of remark about the Colts having a lot of dudes that did not know how to take care of their bodies and that's why we have so many injuries?

Not sure about any of this but I am sure I am fucking sick and tired of seeing so many Colts players on the shelf!
S&C programs need to be more than just about the weight room now. Guys need to know how to eat, what to eat, how to cook. Alcohol and partying is a big problem also. That ages your body so fast. Young millionaires with lots of money to spend. Eat like crap, party all the time. You need guys that tell them how to live outside the weight room. Most have never been exposed to that and probably think McDonald’s is an exceptable meal when hungry.

Racehorse 10-09-2018 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 85059)
S&C programs need to be more than just about the weight room now. Guys need to know how to eat, what to eat, how to cook. Alcohol and partying is a big problem also. That ages your body so fast. Young millionaires with lots of money to spend. Eat like crap, party all the time. You need guys that tell them how to live outside the weight room. Most have never been exposed to that and probably think McDonald’s is an exceptable meal when hungry.
Don’t forget that young athletes often do not stretch seriously during warmups and often do not get warmed up or warm back up after the half.

Chromeburn 10-09-2018 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 84997)
Biggest needs are depth. No one single high draft star will change this team. We need depth. You can't predict injuries, but it seems that you can predict that the Colts will be near the top in players lost to injury.
We need to upgrade the starting 22. Lol at you guys complaining about depth. No team has depth at the oline. If they do that guy gets snatched up by another team. There is a defiency of quality tackles and oline in general. The only teams drafting for depth are Super Bowl teams. Even then you don’t spend a top 100 pick on depth. You draft starters or try to upgrade starters.

Chromeburn 10-09-2018 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 85080)
Don’t forget that young athletes often do not stretch seriously during warmups and often do not get warmed up or warm back up after the half.
Yeah I read that about someone. Was it TJ Green? That is shocking to me. All through out my playing we always stretched for 20-30 minutes. Before games, before practice, before workouts. It was mandatory. It is just basic maintenance. I think some of these guys are just such gifted athletes that they can get by till they get to the pros. Then they are out in a couple years and they wonder what they could have done to extend it.

Sometimes vets will help them with this stuff. But a lot of time vets see them as competition and not a ton of help will come from there.

Puck 10-09-2018 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 85083)
We need to upgrade the starting 22. Lol at you guys complaining about depth. No team has depth at the oline. If they do that guy gets snatched up by another team. There is a defiency of quality tackles and oline in general. The only teams drafting for depth are Super Bowl teams. Even then you don’t spend a top 100 pick on depth. You draft starters or try to upgrade starters.
Good post. And we dearly need to upgrade the tackle positions

omahacolt 10-09-2018 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 85109)
Good post. And we dearly need to upgrade the tackle positions
We need an upgrade at rt maybe. If Clark can do it then we are set. Can’t rely on Good staying healthy


AC is fine

YDFL Commish 10-09-2018 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 85110)
We need an upgrade at rt maybe. If Clark can do it then we are set. Can’t rely on Good staying healthy


AC is fine
While I agree, we haven't seen him play yet this season. Also he has only 1 more year on his contract. It is time to find his potential successor.

If we decide to keep AC beyond next season, then maybe the guy we draft is our RT until AC can't do it anymore.

I'm not advocating that we have to draft a Tackle in the 1st round. But, that we need to seriously consider it in those first 50 picks.

Chromeburn 10-09-2018 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 85109)
Good post. And we dearly need to upgrade the tackle positions
I want to see what happens with Smith. And between him, Clark, and Good. Someone should be able to fill it. Also Taylor Lewan is set to become a FA this off season.

Racehorse 10-10-2018 09:24 AM
Anyone heard anything about our injuries? Anyone coming back to play this weekend?

VeveJones007 10-10-2018 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 85110)
We need an upgrade at rt maybe. If Clark can do it then we are set. Can’t rely on Good staying healthy


AC is fine
Depends on how the 1st round shakes out. There are supposedly some good OTs available. If there's a clear BPA OT, I'm absolutely on board. Then hopefully grab a good WR with one of the 2nd rounders.

HoosierinFL 10-10-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 85090)
Yeah I read that about someone. Was it TJ Green? That is shocking to me. All through out my playing we always stretched for 20-30 minutes. Before games, before practice, before workouts. It was mandatory. It is just basic maintenance. I think some of these guys are just such gifted athletes that they can get by till they get to the pros. Then they are out in a couple years and they wonder what they could have done to extend it.

Sometimes vets will help them with this stuff. But a lot of time vets see them as competition and not a ton of help will come from there.
Modern kinesiology is abandoning stretching. The argument is that it doesn't prevent injury, it causes injury. Over-stretching creates micro-tears in the muscle fibers.
Instead muscles should be warmed up by using them in slow controlled movements without strain or resistance. Walking, jogging, stationary bike, squats, squat thrusts, jumping jacks, windmills, heel lifts, lunge. leg swing, push ups, etc.
What is considered dangerous are those stretches where you sit and spread your legs out wide, then lean at the waist and try and touch your toes. Or even standing and touching your toes. This is where hamstring injuries originate.

FatDT 10-10-2018 03:39 PM
I just read Slauson broke 2 vertebrae in his back, nearly paralyzed himself playing through it. Damn.

rcubed 10-10-2018 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 85210)
I just read Slauson broke 2 vertebrae in his back, nearly paralyzed himself playing through it. Damn.
that's nuts

YDFL Commish 10-10-2018 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 85213)
that's nuts

Yeah, that's nuts. But that the kind of toughness I want on my team.

1965southpaw 10-10-2018 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 85153)
Anyone heard anything about our injuries? Anyone coming back to play this weekend?
Nothing officicial yet but 11 starters did not practice today and Ebron was noted to have a shin, calf, knee, and quad injury so expect him to have to have his leg amputated. :cool:

Big Joe spent time in the locker room yesterday and based on his convo with players thinks for sure AC, Mack, Hairston, and Leonard are back. Says no way is Kenny Moore back, doesn't know re TY, and thinks it's unlikely that Jack Doyle returns. .......take it for what it's worth.....not official.

rcubed 10-11-2018 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 85239)
Yeah, that's nuts. But that the kind of toughness I want on my team.
No, that's stupid. Playing through broken fingers or hand or sprains or whatever is great, but dude could have been paralyzed

YDFL Commish 10-11-2018 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 85259)
No, that's stupid. Playing through broken fingers or hand or sprains or whatever is great, but dude could have been paralyzed
I'm sure that he did not know that at the time.

Chromeburn 10-11-2018 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 85265)
I'm sure that he did not know that at the time.
Yeah, he didn’t know till afterwards. He isn’t insane.

rcubed 10-11-2018 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 85330)
Yeah, he didn’t know till afterwards. He isn’t insane.
of course he didnt know until later.

The stupidity I was referring to was saying "thats the kind of toughness I want..."

YDFL Commish 10-11-2018 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 85336)
of course he didnt know until later.

The stupidity I was referring to was saying "thats the kind of toughness I want..."
It is the kind of toughness I want. If you don't what's hurting you, and you think that you can still help the team, then you stay on the field and deal with the doctors after the game.

Chromeburn 10-11-2018 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 85336)
of course he didnt know until later.

The stupidity I was referring to was saying "thats the kind of toughness I want..."
Yeah... I know. Probably why I didn’t reply to your post.


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