Irsay keep out of this. Its not ballards fault mcd fucked us.

Bringing in Frazier would be a stupid, emotional, reactionary move. Just hire Reich. The fact that McDickless scammed us doesn't mean we have to go back to a Dungy-style coach. Manning's not here. Luck isn't Manning. He's injured and he isn't driven the same way, he needs an offensive HC for stability and direction and Leslie fucking Frazier isn't going to give him that.

And it's possible he will be working with Jacoby instead.

Beyond that, IF Luck makes it back he's going to be rusty at best.

If Irsay steps in and fucks this up, I'm going to be pissed. If he had fired Pagano last year like he should have, we could have gotten Kyle Shanahan, but no, we had to keep that moron one more year and then got into this mess.

The Vikings hired John Defilippo as their OC yesterday. I doubt Philly will let Reich go to another team after that.

I know this doesn't exactly belong here but I'm too lazy to start a new thread and it's loosely related as it involves Philly and the fucking chowdas.......

https://sports.yahoo.com/philadelphi...050040669.html

I love this! I wish we could pull Pedersen out of Philly but even if Reich is merely Pedersen lite he's far superior if for no other reason he's part of a culture that isn't intimidated by the chowda eating bastards but instead brought planning, discipline, and savvy to the task of beating those fuckers at their own game. Those are traits that would be very valuable in our new coach (there fags, I connected it to this thread). :D

Hire people that know how to beat the cheatas

How exactly would they stop him from leaving?

At this point we need to hire people that know how to defeat division opponents before we worry about that

I want to beat them as much as anyone, but this is a 3-13 team with a poor roster. The division comes first

Since it's a promotional step the only thing they can do is throw a bunch of money at him and give him an assistant HC title to persuade him to stay (basically the same thing the Cheats did with McDouchebag), correct?

Yeah, if we get a guy who can beat the Pats and lose every other game, it would really suck. That would mean the Pats are no longer relevant, which would be great, but we would also remain irrelevant, which would suck.

Yeah, but guys usually don’t go into coaching for a dollar amount. They go into coaching to be the guy in charge of a team, eventually. No dollar amount would make up for passing up a chance to prove yourself as a coach, unless you are a McDouche.

fixed it

His team just won the super bowl with a backup QB. Why would he want to leave that to go to a mess?

To be a head coach. Why would he agree to an interview if he wasn't interested? McDouche doesn't count since he's an asshole.

$$$ perhaps ? :cool:

If you can beat those %^&@ suckers you can beat anyone in this division.

One good thing about Reich is that since he spent so many years here, he knows the organization, and Irsay, so he knows exactly what it will be like, sans Ballard, but I can't imagine Ballard would be a problem for any potential HC.

Agreed. I was just saying that TMK that's really the only thing the Eagles could do to keep him since they can't block him.

That's pretty easy. Most coordinators want a shot at HC. He's not old, but he is older than many coordinators getting their first chance to be the HC. No better time than right after a SB win to parlay that into a HC job.

Yeah I guess so. He's the one I want out of what's left, but I'm not thrilled about any of them to be honest. We'll see.

Listened to most of JMV this afternoon as I was stuck driving all over f'ing Jersey today and I feel much better. He addressed the tweet from that guy who suggests Ballard and Irsay aren't on the same page....he thinks that is WAY overstated. His understanding is merely that Irsay and Ballard still have the same vision that an offensive minded coach would be ideal. He believes that Irsay IS much more engaged right now but he is convinced they are still on the same page. He reaffirmed that Irsay and Ballard are actively consulting Dungy but also Polian and Manning and believes that Peyton and Polian are actively endorsing Reich. He believes that unless Reich shits the bed today in his interview that he will get the job. He thinks Frazier and Campbell are backup candidates. I didn't see but appearantlt Rappaport tweeted something about Campbell rising to the top of the list but JMV thinks that is not accurate. Who knows.....ready for this to be done.

I think Frazier would be a good coach, not sure on Reich

I think the coaches "mindset" offensive or defensive is overrated

We've seen plenty of instances where guys take over a team and a coaches "strength" quickly is the weakest part of the team

Dungy was a "defensive coach" how'd that turn out?

Brian Billick was an "offensive coach" when he went to the Ravens

You thought Pagano was a good coach, so no one gives a shit what you think.

Yep, and like I said from the outset I'd rather have Pagano than bumass Mcdaniels

While all you faggots were just dreaming of the offense that genius would run with Luck

I think that’s largely dependent on the coach, gm, team identity, etc.

We were an offensive team and hired a def coach in dungy to strengthen that side.
Rams had a much better D, hired an O coach and took off last year.

This fuckin' guy...smh

Fuck you too, coach doesn't matter it's all on Luck's shoulder

Healthy Luck = playoffs with your mom as the coach

Brisset starting = drafting top 10 with Vince Lombardi as the coach

I agree with this. And, it might just be because as a coordinator, you're only plotting ways to attack the opposition, so you must know the opposition in order to exploit it. As a HC, you kind of know the ways to combat your own brilliance, thus becoming pretty adept on the other side of the game.

Well, it mattered for Goff and the Rams. It mattered for Foles and the Eagles.

He'd certainly be better than your boy Clappy. That's for damn sure.

Remember when Pagano thought we were a power running team? Holy fuck was that guy stupid. Coaches absolutely make a difference.

just not having pagano should equal 3 or 4 wins a year.

I don't necessarily think either one of those is true.

First of all, Luck was at least healthy enough to start the majority of the 2016 season and they missed the playoffs

Second, multiple games this year even with Brissett in their, they could have and should have won. Were they making the playoffs? No. But this easily could have been a 6 or 7 win team instead of a 3 win team.

Maybe they still draft top 10 with those wins, but they could have easily doubled the win total with a good coach.

I mentioned it before somewhere, and there is one thing I would want Irsay to do.

May not be popular with others on here, but he should at least put a phone call into Dungy to see if he has any interest in returning as head coach. Not long term, just for a year or two. You have a bunch of new assistants as well. Coach them up for a bit and see if one you can find who may take over in the next few years.

The team would at least be disciplined if nothing else. I always thought Dungy was rather unoriginal and plain in his game plans, but you wouldn't see TJ green out there at corner, or out there at all, under him making bonehead late hit plays, jumping on piles

Outside of that though, Irsay should just stay out of it and rely on Ballard. And Ballard should remember the lesson of never trusting a god damn thing a Pats coach says to you

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And if Andrew Luck comes back healthy, the combination of those 2 circumstances should at least put the Colts in the discussion for being a potential 10-win team in 2018.


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...but you would see Rob Morris playing MLB for way too long before they finally found a better spot for him to contribute. Strong side, was it?

He was still better than Green. And didn't play stupid and top of his inadequacies at the position

And he did eventually contribute.

Ok so 7 wins and Pagano keeps his job?

I doubt it, then everyone here would've been pissed he fucked our draft position with meaningless wins

He was gone regardless

Hmmm, where have we heard this drivel before?