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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 115375)

The draft is still a few weeks out, but I think we have enough information to start culling the list of potential targets for the Colts at #26 and #34.

1) There are several players very likely to be selected in the top 25. Based on Ballard's comments, it's doubtful he will trade up to get one of these 16 guys before they're off the board:

QB: Kyler Murray
QB: Dwayne Haskins
QB: Drew Lock
WR: DK Metcalf
TE: TJ Hockenson
OL: Jonah Williams
OL: Jawaan Taylor
OL: Andre Dillard
EDGE: Nick Bosa
EDGE: Josh Allen
EDGE: Rashaun Gary
EDGE: Montez Sweat
DL: Quinnen Williams
DL: Ed Oliver
LB: Devin White
LB: Devin Bush

2) There are also some highly rated players that either aren't a scheme/character fit or at positions that are very unlikely to be targeted early by the Colts:

Scheme/Character:

DL: Jerry Tillery (5 technique)
DL: Dexter Lawrence (2 gap player)
EDGE: Jachai Polite (character knocks)
CB: Greedy Williams (better suited for man scheme)
CB/S: Rock Ya-Sin (likely a slot cover corner)
CB/S: Chauncey Gardner-Johnson (likely a slot cover corner)

Positional Value:

TE: Noah Fant
TE: Irv Smith
RB: Josh Jacobs
OL: Garrett Bradbury
OL: Cody Ford
QB: Daniel Jones
OL: Erik McCoy
OL: Dalton Risner
RB: David Montgomery
LB: Mack Wilson
S: Nasir Adderley (strictly a FS)
S: Deionte Thompson (strictly a FS)

That significantly narrows the list of potential targets at #26 and #34:

Potential Targets:

DT: Jeffrey Simmons
DT: Christian Wilkins
DT: Dre'mont Jones
EDGE: Brian Burns
EDGE: Clelin Ferrell
EDGE: Jaylon Ferguson
S: Jonathan Abram
S: Taylor Rapp
CB: Byron Murphy
CB: Deandre Baker
WR: AJ Brown
WR: Marquise Brown
WR: N'Keal Harry
WR: Riley Ridley
WR: Deebo Samuel
WR: Terry McLaurin
WR: Paris Campbell

Obviously some of these guys will be off the board, so the list becomes even shorter when the Colts are on the clock at #26 and #34. I list the defenders first because I'm fairly confident that's the direction they will take. The list of WRs is a bit long because I'm not 100% sure what the Colts would value more. Do they want a slot guy? A speed threat to stretch the field?

What do you guys think? Any names you think should be moved around? Any names you would add?

If you remove the WRs it's a pretty good list. I also think Tillery can play 3 tech and has ideal size and length for what Eberflus wants in a DL.

There were times last year when this was the best offensive line play I can remember. Certainly the most violent. Having said that the only position that would shock me as a first round pick is qb. I think Ballard goes for the best player that fits his scheme regardless of position. Position does not matter that much unless you grade them close. We need more playmakers. Doesn't matter where (though I am hoping for defense)

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 115394)

So, are you 100% convinced that that Braden Smith is the RT of the future? I'm not.

I'm also not 100% convinced that Glowinski can maintain his success either. If not, maybe Smith gets moved back inside to RG...in that case we need a RT to replace him.

We are also pinning a lot on LeRaven Clark at LT if Castonzo should go down. Yet alone the fact that we can't guarantee that Castonzo will be a Colt after 2019.

Don't get me wrong. This is probably the best O-Line that we have had since at least 2009. But one more piece needs to be added to insure that it stays that way.

Let me put it this way: there’s zero chance I pass on Wilkins or Simmons in favor of Ford. Would you?

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 115402)

This.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if Ford is on the board, he'll be the pick. He likely won't be, but if he is...well, I'd love the choice.

But I know nothing about this sort of stuff.

I’m not saying we absolutely will take an OT but if that is BPA then I’m pretty sure it will/could happen

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 115394)

No, look at the quote. It was sarcasm. The Colts need a pass rush that produces more pressure if they want to get back to the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 115377)

It sure why you are listing the OL players as non positional. We need a future LT

Eventually yes.

This year? No

I don't think anyone would argue against OL depth and upgrades.

But we are talking about picks #26 and #34 and there are certainly much greater needs on this team. I can't see using picks that high on OL depth when pass rush, corner, #2 WR are still huge areas of need.

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 115377)

It sure why you are listing the OL players as non positional. We need a future LT

We won't use a first rounder to pick a guy who will be a backup for a year. Plus Clark is there even if Castonzo is not re-signed.

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 115397)

2009? No. You’re either misremembering or crazy. This OL right now is the best OL we’ve had in decades. In 2009 we had Charlie Johnson playing above his head at LT while Ugoh sulked on the bench, Mike fucking Pollak at RG, Saturday as a shell of who he used to be at C, and the lumbering corpse of Ryan Diem at RT before they kicked him inside (where he still wasn’t very good).

You are correct...the 2007 OL was pretty good though. I agree that this OL looks to be our best ever. But it will take sustained success to prove that out...especially with a new OL coach coming in.

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 115422)

^^This, but I would just add that it isn't like they'll be "reaching" for one of those areas of need. I just provided a long list of guys projected at 25-50 at areas of need, so it's not like they'd be reaching for a 3rd round talent to fill a hole.