Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 253403)

I am among those that believe Luck would have eventually had to face these same issues, mentally speaking, even if injuries never played into his career arc.
If he wasn't injured, no doubt it would have been the external pressure of winning a Superbowl that would have weighed heavily on him. A lot of the things that turned him into a cold drone to his wife and friends were the same, weather they impacted his rehab process or his preparation process as a healthy player. The guy didn't like who he was when he was relied upon to be the face of the franchise-who made all of the decisions and ordered food for everyone else at restaurants. This had nothing to do with rehab- the injuries and rehab simply exasperated the problem.

He would have retired early (perhaps for introverted reasons, pressure from his wife which was evident in the article) if he remained healthy. But that in itself is a long shot, as he played with heart and often took big hits. Andrew Luck was bigger than football and he eventually realized it. He was a gifted athlete with a gifted mind, and luckily for him, his mind won out on that decision. I don't think he wanted to finish his career with the cerebral aptitude of Antonio Brown. A man with the mind of Andrew Luck really didn't have any business in a Neanderthals NFL world.
Peyton had football intelligence that was off the charts- but I don't think he had a fraction of the introspective capabilities of Andrew Luck to ever even question his self worth.
In the example of Peyton vs Luck and where they vastly differed - Peyton benefitted from introspective ignorance, and the good fortune of playing for over 10 years with little to no major injuries.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 253616)

I agree with you, especially after reading the article. The injuries definitely expedited things, but it sounds like ultimately he just wasn't mentally and emotionally equipped to be the face of a franchise. And on top of that he wasn't able to maintain any sort of work life balance. I think if/when he graduates and gets out into the real world he's going to still struggle with work/life balance since he's already had to drop classes in the his first semester b/c of this.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 253637)

Dropping some classes is finding balance. There are many reasons for dropping classes, since he is a stay at home dad

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 253696)

Maybe, but I doubt a full time teaching and coaching job, which is what he said he wants to do, will be less demanding than grad school.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 253701)

Not knowing Ca. Standards for receiving a teaching license, he would need core secondary ed methodology classes, Ed psych, a semester of student teaching. With all the dumb things that get classroom teachers in trouble, educational law (teacher and student rights)

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 253714)

Not saying that his teaching masters is going to be a walk in the park. Just saying that a full time teaching and coaching gig will probably be pretty demanding. Of course he won't need to rely on it financially, so he can walk away from it at any time if he can't handle it.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 253730)

For Indiana, :

To get a teaching license for secondary ed you need a major in ed and a minor or a major in your subject. Emergency license , just a major in the area and an emergency certificate for education.

I dont know why he would want a masters, its not necessary for the classroom. If he is thinking about being an AD, or asst principle thats 1 1/2 years if you are just taking summer classes.

States vary. If he really wants to be an educator, stay out of the office, stay in the classroom.

My opinion only. The best educator (principal) should spend 90% of their time with the kids and 10% with the bullshit paper work. Thats not the case and thats the biggest problem in schools. Hire an accountant for the paperwork and free up educators to educate

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 253696)

Maybe, but I doubt a full time teaching and coaching job, which is what he said he wants to do, will be less demanding than grad school.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 253714)

Not saying that his teaching masters is going to be a walk in the park. Just saying that a full time teaching and coaching gig will probably be pretty demanding. Of course he won't need to rely on it financially, so he can walk away from it at any time if he can't handle it.