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rcubed 04-22-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 229281)
I’m with Ballard in believing the receivers we have were held back by QB play. We will know if he believes it to the extent he has been preaching by how he drafts and if he signs veteran help.


While I think there is truth in that, I still dont think its a scary crew. I think pittman is very good but would make a better #2. The others are good #3-whatever but I would like to have a better #1.

omahacolt 04-22-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 229235)
He’s currently our highest paid WR

haha wtf


that is an embarrassment

ChaosTheory 04-22-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 229286)
I think he's coming back.

I do, too. Next likely would be retirement. I'd be most surprised if he went somewhere else.

I've always thought Hilton for 1-yr is more likely than one of these overvalued guys getting a $70m contract. We'll see.

IndyNorm 04-22-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 229235)
He’s currently our highest paid WR

Also, at 18 career catches for 173 yards he's also our 2nd most accomplished WR who doesn't get hurt getting out of bed :cool:.

IndyNorm 04-23-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 229281)
I’m with Ballard in believing the receivers we have were held back by QB play. We will know if he believes it to the extent he has been preaching by how he drafts and if he signs veteran help.

I don't disagree that Wentz held back our receivers, but that was mostly TY and Pascal whose yards per game dropped by 35% and 39% respectively YoY. I'm not sure how much Wentz held back the other WRs:

Campbell - Hurt most of the year as normal.
Dulin - Actually took a step forward and showed he could have a future at WR.
Patmon - Started the season on IR. Limited playing time at the end of the season.
Strachan - Sat the final 15 games of his "red shirt" year

Racehorse 04-23-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 229329)
I don't disagree that Wentz held back our receivers, but that was mostly TY and Pascal whose yards per game dropped by 35% and 39% respectively YoY. I'm not sure how much Wentz held back the other WRs:

Campbell - Hurt most of the year as normal.
Dulin - Actually took a step forward and showed he could have a future at WR.
Patmon - Started the season on IR. Limited playing time at the end of the season.
Strachan - Sat the final 15 games of his "red shirt" year

I'm not sure what you are getting at here

JAFF 04-23-2022 08:52 PM

I think we as fans have forgotten about Nyheim Hines. His targets and receptions were down last year. He could be huge as a check down option for ryan

IndyNorm 04-24-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 229337)
I'm not sure what you are getting at here

Was trying to point out that the WRs who were mostly impacted by Wentz's play are not on (at least the current) roster.

IndyNorm 04-24-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 229344)
I think we as fans have forgotten about Nyheim Hines. His targets and receptions were down last year. He could be huge as a check down option for ryan

I don't think we have, at least I haven't. I fully expect Hines' '22 season to look much more like his '20 season than his '21 season. But we still need to add at least a good WR2 option and maybe a WR3 as well.

YDFL Commish 04-24-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 229352)
I don't think we have, at least I haven't. I fully expect Hines' '22 season to look much more like his '20 season than his '21 season. But we still need to add at least a good WR2 option and maybe a WR3 as well.

Ryan has the ability to get every skill position player more involved, from Pitt, Hynes, JT, MOC etc.

Wentz was a cancer to this team. No more checking to RPO's, no more waiting for the big play to happen, no more improvisation in the pocket wher your OL don't know where you are.

Ill bet sacks go down by 1/3 this season.


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