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rcubed 01-02-2018 02:06 AM
McDaniels has acknowledged that as well. He had said he didn't do things right in Denver and now understands what he did wrong and that he learned a lot back in NE. He said because of his failure he knew what to concentrate on and learn from belicheat. That's good to hear but I would still be Leary of hiring him.

Dam8610 01-02-2018 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 49614)
McDaniels and Cutler never worked together.

Cutler was traded to the Bears prior to the start of the 2009 season, which was McDaniels’ first in Denver.

McDaniels’ problems came as a talent evaluator as he tried to be czar of the organization like Belichick is in New England. With Ballard in place in Indy, clearly this wouldn’t be the case.
McDaniels was the reason Cutler demanded a trade.

Maniac 01-02-2018 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 49555)
Cutler, who was coming off a Pro Bowl age 25 season at the time.
Pro Bowls are a joke. Vince Young and David Garrard were pro bowl QB's too.

That said, I don't want McDaniels either. The broncos were caught videotaping other teams' practices under McDaniels. Don't want that cheating bastard on the Colts.

Coltsalr 01-02-2018 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 49623)
McDaniels was the reason Cutler demanded a trade.
Because Cutler was a giant baby about it that McDaniels looked into trading for Cassel, a QB he had just worked with.

That says nothing about the impact McDaniels had on Cutler’s development, much less “destroying” him.

Dam8610 01-02-2018 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 49637)
Because Cutler was a giant baby about it that McDaniels looked into trading for Cassel, a QB he had just worked with.

That says nothing about the impact McDaniels had on Cutler’s development, much less “destroying” him.
Never said he did that, I said the Bears did that. I said McDaniels ran him out of Denver, which he did by trying to trade for a QB. The current equivalent would be him coming here and announcing that Brissett would be the starter moving forward. Brissett is a great QB2, but Luck is clearly the QB1 here.

Coltsalr 01-02-2018 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 49640)
Never said he did that, I said the Bears did that. I said McDaniels ran him out of Denver, which he did by trying to trade for a QB. The current equivalent would be him coming here and announcing that Brissett would be the starter moving forward. Brissett is a great QB2, but Luck is clearly the QB1 here.
That wouldn’t be the equivalent at all.

The equivalent, I suppose, would be if McDaniels talked up Brissett, another QB he’s worked with in the past, and Luck got jealous and demanded a trade.

Again, that would reflect more on a petulant whiny jealous QB than the HC.

Hoopsdoc 01-02-2018 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 49445)
I like this about Ballard;


George Bremer @gmbremer
Castonzo said Ballard's message to the team today was he'll work to bring in a coach that will get the most out of them, but that championship teams are built when players hold one another accountable. So it starts in the locker room. #Colts

:cool:
Yes yes yes yes.

No more pat em on the butt and do better next time.

Dam8610 01-02-2018 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 49642)
That wouldn’t be the equivalent at all.

The equivalent, I suppose, would be if McDaniels talked up Brissett, another QB he’s worked with in the past, and Luck got jealous and demanded a trade.

Again, that would reflect more on a petulant whiny jealous QB than the HC.
He wanted to trade for Cassell and Cutler lost confidence that the organization was committed to him, and rightfully so since they'd just tried to trade for another team's backup to replace him. So the scenario I laid out would actually be fairly similar, especially since Brissett is a former Cheat.

Hoopsdoc 01-02-2018 12:44 PM
Two guys they should at least approach-Tony Dungy and Bruce Arians. 99 percent chance they both turn it down but it costs nothing to ask.

Maniac 01-02-2018 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 49675)
Two guys they should at least approach-Tony Dungy and Bruce Arians. 99 percent chance they both turn it down but it costs nothing to ask.
No, and No. Might as well reach out to Jim Mora too.


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