Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232932)

This isnt a problem caused by liberals. List of crazy shit that got this country the way it is.

1 pandemic: it has reeked havoc on every part of our nation. Threw a wrench into every part of our society

A. A bunch of people like me left the work force, due to retirement, and other reasons
B. Shortages of everything, still disrupting economy. Anything that needs a computer chip, one specific part that needs to be imported. Baby formula and tampons, someone saw that one coming?
C. Oil prices? Yeah. People were driving less so less oil needed refined, and a third of the refineries where shut down. Less gas refined, price goes up. And the oil companies arent in a hurry. They love high oil prices. Oh, and they laid off or their employees or they left left to other opportunities, so its not easy to just fire up a refineries.
D. Cost of homes. I have no idea why its gone crazy. Im just glad Im close to paying off my home. If you have a mortgage with an adjustable rate, look out.

E. War in Ukraine. Food, natural gas, OIL. Thats on Russia and Europe. The only group profiting from this, US farmers. IF the weather cooperates.

There is enough blame to go around for both administrations. Both have been too slow when problems. Both have not been able to put the PEOPLE needs ahead of their own. Both parties are broken.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232933)

I am neither a republican or a democrat. I have voted both ways in the past. But liberals are a fucking disease. Quit with the excuses, there are none so blind, as those who refuse to see.

This administration has been the worst in my lifetime. Just a complete shit show.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232935)

And the conservatives have not helped. The present administration has passed many initiatives through the house, but are not even taken up by the Senate.

My republican senator is in the 59th percentile of Missed votes. Its both sides.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 232932)

This isnt a problem caused by liberals. List of crazy shit that got this country the way it is.

1 pandemic: it has reeked havoc on every part of our nation. Threw a wrench into every part of our society

A. A bunch of people like me left the work force, due to retirement, and other reasons. Now there is a shortage of trained workers.
B. Shortages of everything, still disrupting economy. Anything that needs a computer chip, one specific part that needs to be imported. Baby formula and tampons, someone saw that one coming?
C. Oil prices? Yeah. People were driving less so less oil needed refined, and a third of the refineries where shut down. Less gas refined, price goes up. And the oil companies arent in a hurry to get them online. They love high oil prices. Oh, and they laid off or their employees or they left left to other opportunities, so its not easy to just fire up a refineries.
D. Cost of homes. I have no idea why its gone crazy. Im just glad Im close to paying off my home. If you have a mortgage with an adjustable rate, look out.

E. War in Ukraine. Food, natural gas, OIL. Thats on Russia and Europe. The only group profiting from this, US farmers. IF the weather cooperates.

There is enough blame to go around for both administrations. Both have been too slow when problems have cropped up. Both have not been able to put the PEOPLE needs ahead of their own. Both parties are broken. We are all Americans, E pluribus unum. As long as we follow dividers and ignore uniters , we will be in trouble

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 232936)

Any liberal democrat or republican needs to get the fuck out. Biden picked a Vice President based on the fact that she was black and a women. She wasn't qualified to run a lemonade stand. The press secretary was picked because she was a black lesbian. I have nothing against black people, there are great ones, Candace Owens comes to mind. Hell, my daughter is married to a great black man. I'm just sick and tired of this administration fucking up the country for which my father, uncles and I fought for. There are no excuses for what this president has fucked up.

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 232996)

3/4 of the shit they send to the senate includes spending money we don't fucking have. Inflation says hello, ya know, all that free money printed up and sent out had to be recouped somehow. Fuck any bills that includes more money spent then comes in to the coffers. We can not withstand that kind of spending.

Democrats=Republicans and vice-versa. Fuck em all, including the ones you voted for.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233011)

Great idea, that will grease the wheels of democracy

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233017)

Uhm, we had everything we have now before the IRS and Federal reserve ever materialized. Taxation is theft, period. Psst, we are not a democracy. We are a republic, huge, HUGE difference.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233021)

Nice try. I said democratic as in a system

de·moc·ra·cy
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.




re·pub·lic
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noun: republic; plural noun: republics
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Which is system based on democratic values.

In a pure democracy, laws are made directly by the voting majority leaving the rights of the minority largely unprotected. In a republic, laws are made by representatives chosen by the people and must comply with a constitution that specifically protects the rights of the minority from the will of the majority