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njcoltfan 04-24-2023 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 264224)
I can't remember where I read it, but in the article a scout said that Stroud's S2 test did match his tape.

So which do I believe the future HOF GM in Dammy or the scout?
With out a doubt, its our own Dammy !!!!

IndyNorm 04-24-2023 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 264232)
With out a doubt, its our own Dammy !!!!
No doubt. If every team would just listen to Dam then they'd all undoubtedly win the Superbowl every year.

IndyNorm 04-24-2023 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 264208)
Far from it, evaluation of film is difficult. That's why 50% is a high hit rate in the NFL draft. Coming away from one draft with four plus starters or impact role players is a great draft, it's why Ballard is considered a great drafter, he's done that consistently. That's also why the combine and pro days exist, to give data to compare to the film. But the film is the deciding factor of any evaluation.

And of course not everyone is going to see it the same way. If you saw the big board of 10 different teams, you'd see no less than 4 different rankings of the QBs, and my money would be on more than that. Some teams have Richardson as the #1 QB, I'm sure. There's probably even someone who has Levis as the #1 QB.
So are you saying that there's at least a 50% chance that you're wrong? If so then I think we need to screen shot and sticky this post!

IndyNorm 04-24-2023 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 264137)
dam will be insufferable

really i don't care. i just want a young qb. preference being richardson
To be fair if we do end up with Stroud and he's half as good as Dam says he'll be then it'll probably be worth it.

ChaosTheory 04-24-2023 05:05 PM
If anybody didn't see it, here's the PFF interview with Brandon Ally (co-founder of S2). It's nearly 40 minutes and fleshes out the testing process and how it's utilized by teams as another scouting element (along with 40 times, film study, etc.). As he says, it's not the Holy Grail, but can help match players with teams that are looking for something specific.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4JT7T4pdY


One interesting point is that there about 16 "outfits" at the combine testing these guys, not just S2.

apballin 04-24-2023 05:29 PM
Venturi was on JMV today and said Levis is his #2 QB behind Bryce Young…

Also said he told Ballard, Richardson is the kinda guy that makes you look like a genius or gets you fired.

Daniel Jeremiah was on later and said he’d love to see Richardson go to the Colts but he thinks it’s Levis

JAFF 04-24-2023 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 264248)
Venturi was on JMV today and said Levis is his #2 QB behind Bryce Young…

Also said he told Ballard, Richardson is the kinda guy that makes you look like a genius or gets you fired.

Daniel Jeremiah was on later and said he’d love to see Richardson go to the Colts but he thinks it’s Levis
Richardson is so young, so raw. He has the physical tools, but how in the world can you predict his maturation in the next 4 years when he gets a contract with a greater financial value than 97% of the US population

Racehorse 04-24-2023 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 264191)
Given the allegedly top 4 in this years draft that is a real possibility. Your guy has the mental capacity of a potato apparently. Two of the other 3 leave a lot of room for improvement. If Young was 6'3" or 6'4" and 220-225 this would be a moot point for any conversation on who is the best QB in this draft.
I heard today that there was a report that Stroud took the S2 multiple times and struggled each time. I think it was Tom Pellisario (sp?).

IndyNorm 04-24-2023 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 264255)
Richardson is so young, so raw. He has the physical tools, but how in the world can you predict his maturation in the next 4 years when he gets a contract with a greater financial value than 97% of the US population
To be fair that's pretty much any of these guys except for maybe Hooker since he's no longer in his early 20s. The bigger concern for Richardson should be if he can greatly improve his accuracy and not if he's going to become a turd after he gets paid.

Chromeburn 04-24-2023 08:23 PM
Peter King’s mock is up. He also thinks Stroud might fall out of the top seven and might land with the Titans.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...oung-panthers/

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Then there’s the quarterback mystery. A month ago, C.J. Stroud was the odds-on favorite to be the first pick in the draft. Today, it’s no lock he goes in the top seven, which seems (and is) insane. Will Levis was an afterthought in many draft rooms as this month dawned; now he might be the fourth overall pick. Eleven years after an accomplished 5-10 3/4 quarterback, Russell Wilson, was picked 75th overall, an accomplished quarterback half-an-inch shorter, Bryce Young, is projected to go first overall.
Make sure you watch the podcast on the page as well. King talks extensively about the Colts. He thinks Manning has bonded with Will Levis and Manning is in turn talking to Irsay. Irsay then is talking about him to Ballard. Says another prominent person in the building likes Richardson. Ultimately it will come down to Ballard and his decision. Says they haven’t had a easy time in the building and have been back and forth on all the QBs.


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